I am afraid that Haley might have lost the team today.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

I love how everyone was saying the Chiefs had no chance in this game.

And then when we do lose, they're in here bitching because we lost.

Hypocrites, one and frappin' all.

Yup.

They suck, I expected them to suck, I'm waiting for the suck to end.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

I love how everyone was saying the Chiefs had no chance in this game.

And then when we do lose, they're in here bitching because we lost.

Hypocrites, one and frappin' all.

Expecting to lose is one thing, it's another to see certain things in a loss that point to a bigger problem.

A loss it not just a loss, there's more to it than that.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Expecting to lose is one thing, it's another to see certain things in a loss that point to a bigger problem.

A loss it not just a loss, there's more to it than that.

If I were on the team, and the coach didn't call any pass plays and we were trailing by double digits and couldn't run for shit.... I may just have second thoughts about how qualified my coach was.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

If I were on the team, and the coach didn't call any pass plays and we were trailing by double digits and couldn't run for shit.... I may just have second thoughts about how qualified my coach was.

Haley answered this in his pC.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Haley answered this in his pC.

Really what was his answer?

"My players got ****ed in the ass so hard I figured we should just get it over with"

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

I love how everyone was saying the Chiefs had no chance in this game.

And then when we do lose, they're in here bitching because we lost.

Hypocrites, one and frappin' all.

The loss isn't the concern. Conceding the game bothers me.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

The loss isn't the concern. Conceding the game bothers me.

You could argue the Chiefs conceded the entire season by entering a season with a roster so void of talent.

I guess we should look on the bright side to the fact that the Chiefs are going to be forced to spend $$$ next offseason to avoid having their payroll drop below the NFL payroll minimum.

This after Clark Hunt said it was urgent the taxpayers of Jackson County open their wallet for millions of $$$ in stadium renovations and this as the Chiefs continue to charge $20+ for gameday parking.

I hope Clark brings his country club stiffs of a family out on the field during halftime next week, like he did during halftime of the Raiders game, and brings his fat ass GM with him so the fans in Arrowhead Stadium can shower them with the boos they deserve.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

I love how everyone was saying the Chiefs had no chance in this game.

And then when we do lose, they're in here bitching because we lost.

Hypocrites, one and frappin' all.

All I want is to give Cassel a chance to develop.

Surrounding him with an offensive line that forces him into a pass offense that relies on screens and doesn't let him go through progressions not only holds back his development, it also makes him a greater injury risk and it might make him develop poor habits like not checking down receivers and running first instead of settling into a pocket.

If nothing else happens this season, I wanted to see Cassel get better. Based on the last two games, all I hope is that we don't **** him up.

[Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

All I want is to give Cassel a chance to develop.

Surrounding him with an offensive line that forces him into a pass offense that relies on screens and doesn't let him go through progressions not only holds back his development, it also makes him a greater injury risk and it might make him develop poor habits like not checking down receivers and running first instead of settling into a pocket.

If nothing else happens this season, I wanted to see Cassel get better. Based on the last two games, all I hope is that we don't **** him up.

Again, you and I are on the same page here.

I want to see the Chiefs do better. I want to see Cassel develop into a hell of a QB and I want to see the Chiefs dominate the line of scrimmage again like we used to.

I just want some of these people to tell me who we specifically didn't go after.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

Again, you and I are on the same page here.

I want to see the Chiefs do better. I want to see Cassel develop into a hell of a QB and I want to see the Chiefs dominate the line of scrimmage again like we used to.

I just want some of these people to tell me who we specifically didn't go after.

I'm about to call you a bunch of really abrasive names for ignoring the posts with the names.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm about to call you a bunch of really abrasive names for ignoring the posts with the names.

Could be that he has you on ignore because of all the Sanchez talk.

He wasn't too happy with my allusion, in the game thread, to Sanchez's early success.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

Again, you and I are on the same page here.

I want to see the Chiefs do better. I want to see Cassel develop into a hell of a QB and I want to see the Chiefs dominate the line of scrimmage again like we used to.

I just want some of these people to tell me who we specifically didn't go after.

We gave a long list. I think where we're on a different page is that I think for the offensive line, we should have been okay with stopgaps.

We're not talking long-term solutions here. I agree that with the available options, we probably would have gotten one at the most (if any). But there were plenty of short-term solutions out there. And given the importance of developing and protecting your QB that you traded for, it should have been a priority to at least make us as good at every line position as possible.

The lists every one has brought up consists of cheap, short-term fixes, all of which were better than our current options. None of them would have turned our offensive line around, but all of them would have made it better.

[Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

We gave a long list. I think where we're on a different page is that I think for the offensive line, we should have been okay with stopgaps.

We're not talking long-term solutions here. I agree that with the available options, we probably would have gotten one at the most (if any). But there were plenty of short-term solutions out there. And given the importance of developing and protecting your QB that you traded for, it should have been a priority to at least make us as good at every line position as possible.

The lists every one has brought up consists of cheap, short-term fixes, all of which were better than our current options. None of them would have turned our offensive line around, but all of them would have made it better.

Chiefzilla,

I'm not arguing with you. You provided me a list and I completely agree, some of them would have been an improvement.

It's the other gloom and doomers who I want responses from. I haven't seen a response from anyone but you.

I've also seen a few names brought up in other threads, and the same people who're bringing up their names now were the SAME people who were screaming that they were a waste of money, too old, not the right mix, etc. a few months ago.

So which is it? Should I believe them now or should I have believed them in May/June?

[The Bad Guy]

You can be critical about Pioli's evaluation of this team right now. But saying this falls on his shoulders only is laughable.

This team has been digging themselves a hole for years with shitty decisions in FA, and shitty drafting. That's not on Pioli.

If he doesn't do shit after this off-season, put it on his shoulders. But this team is so void of talent, I can't imagine a scenario where we compete until at least 2011.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

You can be critical about Pioli's evaluation of this team right now. But saying this falls on his shoulders only is laughable.

This team has been digging themselves a hole for years with shitty decisions in FA, and shitty drafting. That's not on Pioli.

If he doesn't do shit after this off-season, put it on his shoulders. But this team is so void of talent, I can't imagine a scenario where we compete until at least 2011.

Yep. I will say that practically ignoring the O-Line when it was horrible last year has to fall on his shoulders. I still haven't heard a reason for that.