Football Amnorix - it's time for the Hoodie Bowl - Page 4

teedubya · 10-05-2009, 11:51 AM

The Broncos being 4-0 is a HUGE crock of shit.

Garcia Bronco · 10-05-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs

The Broncos being 4-0 is a HUGE crock of shit.

How so?

Sure-Oz · 10-05-2009, 11:53 AM

Orton is a beast

Quesadilla Joe · 10-05-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Orton is a beast

THIS

Mile High Mania · 10-05-2009, 12:52 PM

Right now - things look pretty balanced on the production of both teams.

Amnorix · 10-05-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Right now - things look pretty balanced on the production of both teams.

Yes. Both have one "lucky" win in their column from the first week of the year. I think the Patriots have played a higher caliber of opponent, however, though the Bengals are looking better this year than they have in the past, no doubt about it.

Any word on whether the teams are wearing their throwback uniforms? It would make some sense.

If it was later in the year, this game might get flexed to the night game, but I don't think they can do that until late Oct / early November.

Mile High Mania · 10-05-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Yes. Both have one "lucky" win in their column from the first week of the year. I think the Patriots have played a higher caliber of opponent, however, though the Bengals are looking better this year than they have in the past, no doubt about it.

Any word on whether the teams are wearing their throwback uniforms? It would make some sense.

If it was later in the year, this game might get flexed to the night game, but I don't think they can do that until late Oct / early November.

Luck is what you make of it... Denver dominated that game for 59 minutes. Anyway, yes this is a "Legacy" game (I think that's the title). So get ready for some ugly UPS color unis in Denver.

Mile High Mania · 10-05-2009, 01:05 PM

Well, the funny thing about the NFL is you can't always use that logic...

Denver beat Cincy... Cincy beats Green Bay and the Steelers. So, Denver should beat those teams... Right?

I see where you're going, but surely you've seen enough football in your life that tells you just because the explosive Ravens failed to score more than 21 points as a team... that doesn't mean Denver can't hang 40 on the Patriots. Am I suggesting that happens? No, but it's every bit as likely as them struggling to just hit 14.

NE had the ball for 37 minutes vs the Bills...
NE had the ball for 39 minutes vs the Falcons ...
NE had the ball for just under 35 minutes vs the Ravens ...
NE had the ball for just under 30 minutes @ the Jets...

NE had nearly identical TOP vs the Bills and Ravens. What does it really mean?

The Jets played "lights out" defense and beat the Patriots ...

The Jets didn't put up flashy numbers, just focused on creating issues for Brady and limiting what they do rushing and with Moss. Sounds like the team in Denver.

JD10367 · 10-05-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

The Jets played "lights out" defense and beat the Patriots ...

The Jets didn't put up flashy numbers, just focused on creating issues for Brady and limiting what they do rushing and with Moss. Sounds like the team in Denver.

I'm not making excuses, because coaching is part of the game, just like D, O, and ST. But it was evident in that game that, for whatever reasons--lack of Welker, Brady being rusty, Belichick not taking the reins, I dunno--the Pats' coaching kind of sucked. The offense was vanilla, the gameplan had few adjustments, receivers weren't holding on to the ball, etc.,.

Don't get me wrong. The Jets deserved to win. But just because the Jets beat the Pats in game 2 doesn't mean the Broncos can do the same thing in game 5, even if they run the same plays.

Mile High Mania · 10-05-2009, 01:35 PM

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I'm not making excuses, because coaching is part of the game, just like D, O, and ST. But it was evident in that game that, for whatever reasons--lack of Welker, Brady being rusty, Belichick not taking the reins, I dunno--the Pats' coaching kind of sucked. The offense was vanilla, the gameplan had few adjustments, receivers weren't holding on to the ball, etc.,.

Don't get me wrong. The Jets deserved to win. But just because the Jets beat the Pats in game 2 doesn't mean the Broncos can do the same thing in game 5, even if they run the same plays.

All are very true... which is why I was saying just because the Ravens struggled to score more than 21 in total doesn't mean the Broncos will struggle to score 14, which is the picture he painted.

It's going to be a dog fight and a loss by Denver wouldn't shock me... I don't want anyone to confuse me for someone that thinks the Broncos have all of a sudden silenced the critics and are on the path to the playoffs.

Prior to week 1, I was pretty clear when I said that 3-1 was my expectation after 4 weeks. If they end this next stretch at 4-4... yes, it will be disappointing, but it won't be a shock to my system.

Denver still has a lot to prove... in part because of the Raiders and Browns being 2 of their wins.

I don't see this as an easy win for either team... and whether NE has Welker or not, they're formidable anywhere. I'm not taking anything for granted, but I don't think it's going to be easy for NE and it's more than just the location.

Mile High Mania · 10-05-2009, 01:50 PM

I was glancing at schedules and who some "top teams" have played... nobody really has played a stellar schedule yet.

Total wins by the teams they've faced:

Falcons = 4 (2 of 2 wins vs Miami & Carolina)
Ravens = 5 (2 of 3 wins vs KC and CLE)
Denver = 6 (2 of 4 wins vs Oak and CLE)
Patriots = 9 wins (2 of 3 wins vs Bills and Falcons)

Each of those teams has had 2 wins vs teams considered to be spare...

The Jets (I think have played the toughest schedule with 8 wins total), but 1 win was vs TN. The Bills have only defeated the Bucs, but they've also played the Pats, Saints.

What does all this mean? I really dunno...

... only wanted to point out that Denver isn't alone with the soft looking schedule through 4 games.

**DaFace** · 10-05-2009, 01:50 PM

What a strange board this is when we have a full-fledged discussion going on between multiple fans of other teams about a game that has nothing to do with the Chiefs.

Mile High Mania · 10-05-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

What a strange board this is when we have a full-fledged discussion going on between multiple fans of other teams about a game that has nothing to do with the Chiefs.

Well, if Denver loses to NE and KC defeats Dallas... you're only 3 back...

Garcia Bronco · 10-05-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

What a strange board this is when we have a full-fledged discussion going on between multiple fans of other teams about a game that has nothing to do with the Chiefs.

It's a testiment to how good this board is.

Mile High Mania · 10-05-2009, 02:02 PM

Here's what Denver wants to avoid... making this a Brady vs Orton air show. I don't think Orton can win that battle right now. Yes, he has a lot of weapons... but they're not as "in step" with each other as Brady and his weapons.

The defense needs consistent pressure on Brady... they have to do this in order to have a chance.

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Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $837229	Well, the funny thing about the NFL is you can't always use that logic... Denver beat Cincy... Cincy beats Green Bay and the Steelers. So, Denver should beat those teams... Right? I see where you're going, but surely you've seen enough football in your life that tells you just because the explosive Ravens failed to score more than 21 points as a team... that doesn't mean Denver can't hang 40 on the Patriots. Am I suggesting that happens? No, but it's every bit as likely as them struggling to just hit 14. NE had the ball for 37 minutes vs the Bills... NE had the ball for 39 minutes vs the Falcons ... NE had the ball for just under 35 minutes vs the Ravens ... NE had the ball for just under 30 minutes @ the Jets... NE had nearly identical TOP vs the Bills and Ravens. What does it really mean? The Jets played "lights out" defense and beat the Patriots ... The Jets didn't put up flashy numbers, just focused on creating issues for Brady and limiting what they do rushing and with Moss. Sounds like the team in Denver. __________________
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Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $837229	I was glancing at schedules and who some "top teams" have played... nobody really has played a stellar schedule yet. Total wins by the teams they've faced: Falcons = 4 (2 of 2 wins vs Miami & Carolina) Ravens = 5 (2 of 3 wins vs KC and CLE) Denver = 6 (2 of 4 wins vs Oak and CLE) Patriots = 9 wins (2 of 3 wins vs Bills and Falcons) Each of those teams has had 2 wins vs teams considered to be spare... The Jets (I think have played the toughest schedule with 8 wins total), but 1 win was vs TN. The Bills have only defeated the Bucs, but they've also played the Pats, Saints. What does all this mean? I really dunno... ... only wanted to point out that Denver isn't alone with the soft looking schedule through 4 games. __________________
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Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $837229	Here's what Denver wants to avoid... making this a Brady vs Orton air show. I don't think Orton can win that battle right now. Yes, he has a lot of weapons... but they're not as "in step" with each other as Brady and his weapons. The defense needs consistent pressure on Brady... they have to do this in order to have a chance. __________________
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