Football Browns trade Edwards to Jets - Page 4

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-07-2009, 07:46 AM

LeBron James called the mayor of Cleveland and asked him to intervene. There just wasn't room for both of them in that town.

**The Bad Guy** · 10-07-2009, 07:50 AM

Pioli is going to have to have one hell of an off-season for me to be as excited as I was when he was hired.

He's really made some horrid decisions here.

I don't have a problem paying Casssel. But paying him when he has no receivers, no TE, no line is like putting a muscle car engine in an el camino that doesn't run.

Going to the 3-4 and hiring Clancy freaking Pendergast is another nonsense move. We have no linebackers. No nose guard. But yes, let's go round peg square hole all over again.

The right 53 can lick my taint.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-07-2009, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Pioli is going to have to have one hell of an off-season for me to be as excited as I was when he was hired.

He's really made some horrid decisions here.

I don't have a problem paying Casssel. But paying him when he has no receivers, no TE, no line is like putting a muscle car engine in an el camino that doesn't run.

Going to the 3-4 and hiring Clancy freaking Pendergast is another nonsense move. We have no linebackers. No nose guard. But yes, let's go round peg square hole all over again.

The right 53 can lick my taint.

Esto

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-07-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Pioli is going to have to have one hell of an off-season for me to be as excited as I was when he was hired.

He's really made some horrid decisions here.

I don't have a problem paying Casssel. But paying him when he has no receivers, no TE, no line is like putting a muscle car engine in an el camino that doesn't run.

Going to the 3-4 and hiring Clancy freaking Pendergast is another nonsense move. We have no linebackers. No nose guard. But yes, let's go round peg square hole all over again.

The right 53 can lick my taint.

Im with you, except for the paying Cassel comment.

We held his rights. There was no upside to signing him to a long term deal before seeing him even come remotely close to the success he had in NE.

Show promise, get a long term deal.

Don't, and we're out nothing but the one year franchise number. That we're basically paying him anyway with the long term deal/guarantees.

Mecca · 10-07-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Im with you, except for the paying Cassel comment.

We held his rights. There was no upside to signing him to a long term deal before seeing him even come remotely close to the success he had in NE.

Show promise, get a long term deal.

Don't, and we're out nothing but the one year franchise number. That we're basically paying him anyway with the long term deal/guarantees.

You and I both know they were never going to approach Cassel that way, as soon as he was traded for he was their guy for the next 5 years atleast.

If you trade a 2 for a guy then don't draft Sanchez and let Cassel walk after 1 year Pioli looks like an incompetent moron and is made fun of.

Cassel will likely be this teams QB as long as Pioli is here, they're married.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-07-2009, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You and I both know they were never going to approach Cassel that way, as soon as he was traded for he was their guy for the next 5 years atleast.

If you trade a 2 for a guy then don't draft Sanchez and let Cassel walk after 1 year Pioli looks like an incompetent moron and is made fun of.

Cassel will likely be this teams QB as long as Pioli is here, they're married.

Ego. /LJ

Mecca · 10-07-2009, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Ego. /LJ

Absolutely all GM's have ego's that's the QB he chose as his guy, he will start for atleast 5 years regardless of performance.

I find it kind of comical that Cassel is getting garbage time TD's to make his stats look nice though...but that still doesn't change his abysmal yardage totals in blowouts.

**2112** · 10-07-2009, 11:18 AM

I'm wondering if Mangini is still on the Jets payroll..lol..this is farking awesome!

ChiefsCountry · 10-07-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by D2112

I'm wondering if Mangini is still on the Jets payroll..lol..this is farking awesome!

He has helped you out quite a bit this year - gave you the franchise QB for nothing, now a stud WR. Patriots reign on the AFC East looks to be ending.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-07-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Pioli is going to have to have one hell of an off-season for me to be as excited as I was when he was hired.

He's really made some horrid decisions here.

I don't have a problem paying Casssel. But paying him when he has no receivers, no TE, no line is like putting a muscle car engine in an el camino that doesn't run.

Going to the 3-4 and hiring Clancy freaking Pendergast is another nonsense move. We have no linebackers. No nose guard. But yes, let's go round peg square hole all over again.

The right 53 can lick my taint.

I think you finally understand the frustration I've had with this franchise since May.

**The Bad Guy** · 10-07-2009, 07:53 AM

This right 53 is going to be as popular as Carl's 5-year plan. I can feel it.

Mecca · 10-07-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

This right 53 is going to be as popular as Carl's 5-year plan. I can feel it.

Pretty much...it's off to a smashing start that's for sure.

Rooster · 10-07-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

This right 53 is going to be as popular as Carl's 5-year plan. I can feel it.

I hope you're wrong.

Agent V · 10-07-2009, 08:02 AM

In my eyes, this may be two strikes against Pioli. First was the mismanaged offensive line, now it's zero effort in making a play for a 26 year-old, proven receiver traded for nothing. Like Bad Guy said, if someone's giving up a player like this for next to nothing, you JUMP on that. But I'm not an NFL general manager, so what do I know...

It's his first season. I'm giving him plenty of time to improve the team. I'm still behind the guy, but while I'm supportive, I'm skeptical of these moves, or lack thereof. Better be one HELL of an offseason come late winter.

Saccopoo · 10-07-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chief103182

In my eyes, this may be two strikes against Pioli. First was the mismanaged offensive line, now it's zero effort in making a play for a 26 year-old, proven receiver traded for nothing. Like Bad Guy said, if someone's giving up a player like this for next to nothing, you JUMP on that. But I'm not an NFL general manager, so what do I know...

It's his first season. I'm giving him plenty of time to improve the team. I'm still behind the guy, but while I'm supportive, I'm skeptical of these moves, or lack thereof. Better be one HELL of an offseason come late winter.

Why are you getting your panties in a knot about a guy that's had one good season in a 4 1/2 year career with hands of stone and a bad attitude? And that you had no idea about who was involved in terms of which teams were offering what.

And how did he mismanage the offensive line? They brought in Mike Goff in the off-season, and then upon the realization that this was not a good line, made moves for Alleman, Ndukwe and O'Callaghan. Coming in to the situation, one would have thought that having a first round draft pick (Albert) and a perennial All-Pro in Waters would have given you a decent chance at putting together a decent offensive line, especially when you add a guy like Goff, who had a good year last year. Going into the draft, they couldn't have thought that it was going to be this bad, that the deficiencies that were there were correctable with better coaching. It was that bad though, and they have made steps to remedy the situation although at this point there is only so much you are going to be able to do, especially with the offensive line as most teams would rather give up their left nut than a competent offensive lineman.

As well, they were relying on Carl's scouting department going into this last draft, and I don't think that there is a single person here who would characterize the Chiefs ability to objectively and properly evaluate talent through the Carl Peterson period as good.

If anyone didn't think that this new FO and coaching was going to view this season as anything other than a year long adjustment period and the first baby step in a complete overhaul was fooling themselves. And to make a statement such as "two strikes against," especially at four games into their first season after 20 years of Carlism, is nothing short of complete myopia.

10-07-2009, 07:50 AM	#2
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9273645	Pioli is going to have to have one hell of an off-season for me to be as excited as I was when he was hired. He's really made some horrid decisions here. I don't have a problem paying Casssel. But paying him when he has no receivers, no TE, no line is like putting a muscle car engine in an el camino that doesn't run. Going to the 3-4 and hiring Clancy freaking Pendergast is another nonsense move. We have no linebackers. No nose guard. But yes, let's go round peg square hole all over again. The right 53 can lick my taint. __________________
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10-07-2009, 11:18 AM	#8
2112 Reset Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $6836765	I'm wondering if Mangini is still on the Jets payroll..lol..this is farking awesome!
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10-07-2009, 07:53 AM	#11
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9273645	This right 53 is going to be as popular as Carl's 5-year plan. I can feel it. __________________
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10-07-2009, 08:02 AM	#14
Agent V Bring me Geno. Join Date: Sep 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	In my eyes, this may be two strikes against Pioli. First was the mismanaged offensive line, now it's zero effort in making a play for a 26 year-old, proven receiver traded for nothing. Like Bad Guy said, if someone's giving up a player like this for next to nothing, you JUMP on that. But I'm not an NFL general manager, so what do I know... It's his first season. I'm giving him plenty of time to improve the team. I'm still behind the guy, but while I'm supportive, I'm skeptical of these moves, or lack thereof. Better be one HELL of an offseason come late winter.
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