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chiefzilla1501 · 11-16-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i'd take McClain over any interior lineman at that point, he is a stud

He might be. It's just that in a 3-4, I don't place very much value at all in ILBs. For as below average as Mays and Demorrio Williams are, I feel like you could build around them in the short-term with vast improvements at both Safety positions and Nose Tackle. And given that ILBs in a 3-4 tend to be role positions instead of playmaker positions, I think it's also quite possible to upgrade that position significantly later in the draft.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-16-2009, 06:04 PM

If you think we can build around Mays and DeMorrio, then I don't think you are qualified to even comment on Pee Wee football.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-16-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

If you think we can build around Mays and DeMorrio, then I don't think you are qualified to even comment on Pee Wee football.

The way I worded that was misleading.

I'm obviously not in support of building around Mays and Demorrio as if they were the centerpiece of the defense.

What I'm saying is that I would build with the OLBs, NTs, and Safeties as Centerpieces first, then worry about the ILBs later. I meant more from a "they aren't good, but we can work around them for now" standpoint.

**The Franchise** · 11-16-2009, 06:10 PM

You can grab Dan Williams in the 4th-5th round to play NT.

milkman · 11-16-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

You can grab Dan Williams in the 4th-5th round to play NT.

It appears we are on much the same page.

ChiefsCountry · 11-17-2009, 12:33 AM

First off why the **** does any of us care what the draft picks are paid. None of us is Clark Hunt so it don't matter. That being said if you are the top of the draft grap the elite talent, you need it to win in the NFL. 2 or 3 years in the top 5 isn't a bad thing if you hit on them.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-17-2009, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

First off why the **** does any of us care what the draft picks are paid. None of us is Clark Hunt so it don't matter. That being said if you are the top of the draft grap the elite talent, you need it to win in the NFL. 2 or 3 years in the top 5 isn't a bad thing if you hit on them.

The one big way it does affect you is that it takes away all trade value. I'm happy that Dorsey worked out for us, but he would've also been much easier to trade if he had a much more manageable cap dollar in a year where where, in a 3-4, he wasn't nearly as valuable as he was in a 4-3.

Coogs · 11-17-2009, 09:28 AM

http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.html

Our selections as of this week would be...

5th in Round 1

6th in Round 2
18th in Round 2 from Atlanta

5th in Round 3

6th in Round 4

5th in Round 5
11th in Round 5 from Carolina
15th in Round 5 from Miami

KChiefs1 · 11-17-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.html

Our selections as of this week would be...

5th in Round 1

6th in Round 2
18th in Round 2 from Atlanta

5th in Round 3

6th in Round 4

5th in Round 5
11th in Round 5 from Carolina
15th in Round 5 from Miami

3 in the top 50 & 5 in the top 100.

Coogs · 11-20-2009, 09:32 AM

Don't know if anyone will see this since this thread is old, but I thought this fit here. NflDraftCountdown has a Hot List of Draft Risers and Draft Fallers. Here is #1 on that risers list...

http://www.draftcountdown.com/featur...t/Hot-List.php

1. Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
Going into his senior season Dan Williams carried a solid draftable grade but he was overshadowed by some other defensive tackles with higher profiles and more headlines. However, based on the way Williams is playing this year he will have the last laugh on Draft Day. Williams has very good size at 6’3 and 327 pounds and he has shown the ability to both stuff the run and get penetration. A stalwart on the Volunteers defense, Williams has really taken to Monte Kiffin’s scheme and as a result his draft stock is soaring. Last week against Ole Miss, Williams seemed to be involved in every play around the line of scrimmage, racking up 9 tackles including 2 for losses. For some reason Williams still isn’t getting a lot of attention nationally but pro scouts have definitely taken notice of his play. After entering the year as a mid-round possibility Williams is now considered to be one of the top senior prospects at his position and he has put himself in contention to be a second or third round pick next April.

Mr. Laz · 11-20-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Don't know if anyone will see this since this thread is old, but I thought this fit here. NflDraftCountdown has a Hot List of Draft Risers and Draft Fallers. Here is #1 on that risers list...

http://www.draftcountdown.com/featur...t/Hot-List.php

1. Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
Going into his senior season Dan Williams carried a solid draftable grade but he was overshadowed by some other defensive tackles with higher profiles and more headlines. However, based on the way Williams is playing this year he will have the last laugh on Draft Day. Williams has very good size at 6’3 and 327 pounds and he has shown the ability to both stuff the run and get penetration. A stalwart on the Volunteers defense, Williams has really taken to Monte Kiffin’s scheme and as a result his draft stock is soaring. Last week against Ole Miss, Williams seemed to be involved in every play around the line of scrimmage, racking up 9 tackles including 2 for losses. For some reason Williams still isn’t getting a lot of attention nationally but pro scouts have definitely taken notice of his play. After entering the year as a mid-round possibility Williams is now considered to be one of the top senior prospects at his position and he has put himself in contention to be a second or third round pick next April.

not a good thing for us ... just as soon have him go unnoticed completely so he falls.

Chiefnj2 · 11-20-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

not a good thing for us ... just as soon have him go unnoticed completely so he falls.

Yeah, NFL scouts aren't going to notice him unless a blogger writes about him.

Mr. Laz · 11-20-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Yeah, NFL scouts aren't going to notice him unless a blogger writes about him.

whatever smartass ... i was referring to the concept of Williams becoming a rising Draftee.

**The Franchise** · 11-20-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

whatever smartass ... i was referring to the concept of Williams becoming a rising Draftee.

As long as he doesn't rise higher than a 3rd round pick.....I'm fine. I'd have no problem using a 3rd round pick on our NT.

philfree · 11-20-2009, 12:19 PM

So right now we'd be picking 5th. I'd like for us to pick 1st or out of the top five where we might be able to trade down and get more picks in this years draft or next years draft. Also as I'm studying this draft and the Chiefs I have to really wonder if we wouldn't be better off trading Dorsey and drafting Suh. That would be if we can't trade down. I'm not down on Dorsey either I'm just looking at what would make our 3-4 D the best it can be. We could use the compensation for Dorsey to draft a NT, OT or an OLB/DE. If we traded Dorsey and Tarded down we could possibly have have 5 first day picks.

PhilFree

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11-20-2009, 09:32 AM	#10
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2305651	Don't know if anyone will see this since this thread is old, but I thought this fit here. NflDraftCountdown has a Hot List of Draft Risers and Draft Fallers. Here is #1 on that risers list... http://www.draftcountdown.com/featur...t/Hot-List.php 1. Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee Going into his senior season Dan Williams carried a solid draftable grade but he was overshadowed by some other defensive tackles with higher profiles and more headlines. However, based on the way Williams is playing this year he will have the last laugh on Draft Day. Williams has very good size at 6’3 and 327 pounds and he has shown the ability to both stuff the run and get penetration. A stalwart on the Volunteers defense, Williams has really taken to Monte Kiffin’s scheme and as a result his draft stock is soaring. Last week against Ole Miss, Williams seemed to be involved in every play around the line of scrimmage, racking up 9 tackles including 2 for losses. For some reason Williams still isn’t getting a lot of attention nationally but pro scouts have definitely taken notice of his play. After entering the year as a mid-round possibility Williams is now considered to be one of the top senior prospects at his position and he has put himself in contention to be a second or third round pick next April.
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philfree Indian Twitter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Free Agency Casino cash: $-2243802	So right now we'd be picking 5th. I'd like for us to pick 1st or out of the top five where we might be able to trade down and get more picks in this years draft or next years draft. Also as I'm studying this draft and the Chiefs I have to really wonder if we wouldn't be better off trading Dorsey and drafting Suh. That would be if we can't trade down. I'm not down on Dorsey either I'm just looking at what would make our 3-4 D the best it can be. We could use the compensation for Dorsey to draft a NT, OT or an OLB/DE. If we traded Dorsey and Tarded down we could possibly have have 5 first day picks. PhilFree __________________ [/SIGPIC]
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