Jack Stack Burnt Ends...WTF???

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Phobia

You're probably right. But I've been disappointed so many times by reputable BBQ establishments that this is my reality. I realize mine may differ from yours. It's just easier for me to make my own or enjoy some from one of my friends than to mess with expensive restaurants any longer.

I should have said that "all of this post is almost true." Because you're right, on the whole. If I made barbecue like you do I wouldn't be going out to bbq joints, either.

[2bikemike]

Originally Posted by Phobia

You're probably right. But I've been disappointed so many times by reputable BBQ establishments that this is my reality. I realize mine may differ from yours. It's just easier for me to make my own or enjoy some from one of my friends than to mess with expensive restaurants any longer.

The thing about doing your own is you can make it the way you and yours like it. Thats what makes Pro Comp cooking so difficult you have to please the Judges. What the Judges like ain't necessarily what I like.

[macdawg]

jjchieffan or anyone who isn't into Jack Stack burnt ends or the burnt end sandwich, is it that you find that the meat is too gristly & fatty? I've had a couple friends complain about that when we ate there, one of them absolutely hated it because he said the meat was half gristle. Personally, I consider Jack Stack and Oklahoma Joes the best BBQ I've ever had, I usually get the Z Man or wild hog at OK Joes and usually get ribs or bbq chicken at Jack Stack.

[philfree]

So what's "burnt ends"?

PhilFree

[2bikemike]

Originally Posted by philfree

So what's "burnt ends"?

PhilFree

I was taught to make burnt ends from the "Point of a Brisket" Once I complete smoking my brisket I seperate the point and the flat. I chop the point and return it to the smoker. The flat we slice and eat while the "burnt ends" are completing the process.

Burnt ends are very tasty chewet morsels with a heavy smokey taste. They also go great in beans. They really aren't for everybody. Some folks like my wife aren't really big fans of them.

I am not sure but I think a lot of BBQ joints will just chop up a whole brisket to make burnt ends since a brisket will not yield the quantities needed to fill the requests for them.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by 2bikemike

I was taught to make burnt ends from the "Point of a Brisket" Once I complete smoking my brisket I seperate the point and the flat. I chop the point and return it to the smoker. The flat we slice and eat while the "burnt ends" are completing the process.

Burnt ends are very tasty chewet morsels with a heavy smokey taste. They also go great in beans. They really aren't for everybody. Some folks like my wife aren't really big fans of them.

I am not sure but I think a lot of BBQ joints will just chop up a whole brisket to make burnt ends since a brisket will not yield the quantities needed to fill the requests for them.

I concur with 2bikemike. Burnt ends should be chewy, smokey and heavily flavored. Generally, they are pretty fatty because the point is the fatty part of the brisket. They're oversmoked, overcooked pieces of heaven. And they tend to be a little jerky-like. 2bikemike's process is how they're supposed to be done.

[cookster50]

Originally Posted by 2bikemike

I am not sure but I think a lot of BBQ joints will just chop up a whole brisket to make burnt ends since a brisket will not yield the quantities needed to fill the requests for them.

I'm pretty sure you are correct sir.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by cookster50

I'm pretty sure you are correct sir.

There's several places (Gates included) that only have burnt ends when they're available. When I lived there, I worked right off the Plaza, down the street from the one on 47th Avenue and The Paseo, and if I didn't get there before 12:30 p.m. or so they'd be out. Same situation with Arthur Bryants.

So while I'm sure SOME places do this, Gates and AB don't. JS.... well, they're just cubing brisket anyway.

[Tylerthigpen!1!]

my personal favorite for burnt ends is bates city

[Reaper16]

Copied from a post I made back in Jan., here are the top 5 places in KC for burnt ends:

1.) L.C.'s (as long as they don't "tourist" you. They run low everyday and save the real ends for regulars).

2.) Smokin' Guns

3.) Woodyard

But ya'll wouldn't know about that #2 & #3 shit, since all the talk is about the hugely popular places (Bryant's, Gates, Jack Stack, Smokestack) that aren't worth much of a shit comparatively.

4.) Oklahoma Joe's (only available on Wed. nights)

5.) Snead's

[angelo]

I have to concur with Phobia.

If you want good BBQ make it yourself.
On a whim we had Jack Stack 2 weeks ago and I found it quite bland and way over priced.

True BBQ should be Well Seasoned and have a Deep Smoky Flavor.

I have been disappointed in the consistency of most places.

Burnt ends are what they sound like. The burnt end pieces from slicing the brisket.

Ang

[cookster50]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Copied from a post I made back in Jan., here are the top 5 places in KC for burnt ends:

1.) L.C.'s (as long as they don't "tourist" you. They run low everyday and save the real ends for regulars).

2.) Smokin' Guns

3.) Woodyard

But ya'll wouldn't know about that #2 & #3 shit, since all the talk is about the hugely popular places (Bryant's, Gates, Jack Stack, Smokestack) that aren't worth much of a shit comparatively.

4.) Oklahoma Joe's (only available on Wed. nights)

5.) Snead's

I will admit I've never had Smokin' Guns ends, just the beef brisket. But dang, that wasn't BBQ that I ate. There was NO and I mean NO smoke flavor in it(this was 2 trips, not just 1, so it isn't like it was a one time bad event). I thought about sueing to make them change their name it was so minus smoke flavor.

As for 3, love me some 'yard. People I go with always get the chili, I just have a hard time going to a bbq joint and getting chili, so I always go with the burnt ends.


For my own current favorite, I like the burnt ends from Big T's. The sauce takes a little getting used to, more vinegar based, but the meat is dang tasty.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Copied from a post I made back in Jan., here are the top 5 places in KC for burnt ends:

1.) L.C.'s (as long as they don't "tourist" you. They run low everyday and save the real ends for regulars).

2.) Smokin' Guns

3.) Woodyard

But ya'll wouldn't know about that #2 & #3 shit, since all the talk is about the hugely popular places (Bryant's, Gates, Jack Stack, Smokestack) that aren't worth much of a shit comparatively.

4.) Oklahoma Joe's (only available on Wed. nights)

5.) Snead's

Rep for that list.

Thanks Reaper.

[jjchieffan]

Thanks Reaper. I will have to try them all out ASAP! I am wanting to make the 3 hour drive to KC right now, just for some burnt ends.

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Copied from a post I made back in Jan., here are the top 5 places in KC for burnt ends:

1.) L.C.'s (as long as they don't "tourist" you. They run low everyday and save the real ends for regulars).

2.) Smokin' Guns

3.) Woodyard

But ya'll wouldn't know about that #2 & #3 shit, since all the talk is about the hugely popular places (Bryant's, Gates, Jack Stack, Smokestack) that aren't worth much of a shit comparatively.

4.) Oklahoma Joe's (only available on Wed. nights)

5.) Snead's

[macdawg]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Copied from a post I made back in Jan., here are the top 5 places in KC for burnt ends:

1.) L.C.'s (as long as they don't "tourist" you. They run low everyday and save the real ends for regulars).

2.) Smokin' Guns

3.) Woodyard

But ya'll wouldn't know about that #2 & #3 shit, since all the talk is about the hugely popular places (Bryant's, Gates, Jack Stack, Smokestack) that aren't worth much of a shit comparatively.

4.) Oklahoma Joe's (only available on Wed. nights)

5.) Snead's

i still need to try LC's, heard tons of good things about it. I tried smoking guns and got ribs, they were overcooked and bone dry & the other guys I went with weren't impressed either.

But, after reading your post I went to Woodyard yesterday for the first time and the burnt ends were perfect. Already went a second time today.