Arguments for a Left Tackle in the 2010 Draft. - Page 3

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-02-2010, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Rinse, repeat for all of the national guys and most people constructing a mock.

Joe Douchebag sees high sack numbers and pencils in a LT, blindly moving Albert to the right side without considering if he has the makeup to allow this to be possible.

Bingo.

Or, it could be, like I think it is in Walter's case, that people think our GM is a ****ing dumbshit, and mock the dumbest possible move.

**DeezNutz** · 02-02-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Bingo.

Or, it could be, like I think it is in Walter's case, that people think our GM is a ****ing dumbshit, and mock the dumbest possible move.

Agreed. Dude can't let an update pass without taking a shot at Dayton Pioli.

Saccopoo · 02-02-2010, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Funny how you clipped the Walter excerpt, when they said that Albert played almost flawlessly the second half of the year.

Branden Albert improved over the season and was pretty flawless in the final month. But I'm not convinced that he's a franchise left tackle. There's a chance that he could be, but I don't think anyone can seriously say that he's a lock to be one.

Neg rep for intellectual dishonesty.

Additionally, Walter most likely didn't watch the majority of Chiefs games and didn't know that Albert was

A) Struggling with weight
B) Learning new technique.

Funny how once he got both those down, his play improved. But let's give up on him after two years.

Because Albert didn't play flawlessly the second half of the year. The Buffalo game was his second worst performance of the year, and the Cincinnati game was a close third.

And how can your footwork get worse if you weigh less? How can your reaction time be worse if you have less mass?

And I wonder what happened at about that half way point which seemed to be a miracle from the Baby Jesus to almost all of our offensive linemen? Oh, that's right. Larry got the boot and we found a decent running game. It's amazing what happens when you have a running back that can actually run. However, Albert's technique and skill set didn't have this amazing epiphany all of a sudden. Go watch the Buffalo game and tell me if you really think that he was better then than earlier in the season from a technique and skill standpoint.

ChiefsCountry · 02-02-2010, 06:05 PM

Here is the argument for taking a LT - A) Albert dies or B) Albert suffers a Sly Morris or Percy Snow type injury this off season. That is it. Besides all of the LT's in this draft do not have the ceiling that Albert has.

Saccopoo · 02-02-2010, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Here is the argument for taking a LT - A) Albert dies or B) Albert suffers a Sly Morris or Percy Snow type injury this off season. That is it. Besides all of the LT's in this draft do not have the ceiling that Albert has.

And what ceiling is that, and what are you basing your "projection" on? Seriously. I want you to tell me why you think Albert is headed to the Pro Bowl as a LT in the not to distant future. What stuff does he have that gives him this incredibly high ceiling that you speak of.

I eagerly anticipate your response.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-02-2010, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

And what ceiling is that, and what are you basing your "projection" on? Seriously. I want you to tell me why you think Albert is headed to the Pro Bowl as a LT in the not to distant future. What stuff does he have that gives him this incredibly high ceiling that you speak of.

I eagerly anticipate your response.

Why does he have to be a Pro Bowler?

Christ, the PB is nothing more than a popularity contest.

Michael Roos is one of the better young LT's in the game, and he's been to ONE Pro Bowl.

You lost what little credibility you had left when you compared Okung to Joe ****ing Thomas.

WildTurkey · 02-02-2010, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Why does he have to be a Pro Bowler?

Christ, the PB is nothing more than a popularity contest.

Michael Roos is one of the better young LT's in the game, and he's been to ONE Pro Bowl.

You lost what little credibility you had left when you compared Okung to Joe ****ing Thomas.

yeah where the **** did that come from

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-02-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey

yeah where the **** did that come from

His ass.

Okung is the (arguably) best OT in a bad class. Period.

Saccopoo · 02-03-2010, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey

yeah where the **** did that come from

This guy for one:

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Russell Okung Scouting Report
By Matt McGuire

Strengths:
Very good height with long arms
Thick, strong lower body
Extremely high level of athleticism
Patient pass protector; does not overextend
Great lateral agility
Quick kick step
Consistent footwork
Nice ankle/knee flexion
Surprisingly physical run blocker
Light on his feet
Highly experienced since true freshman year
Very durable - 34 straight starts
Understands angles
Recognizes stunts and blitz assignments
Gets to second level
Leader
Tremendous upside
Week 1 starting left tackle
Franchise player
Potential No. 1 overall pick

Weaknesses:
Occasionally gets too high in his stance
Needs to gain a little more upper body strength
Sometimes loses focus (bored with competition?)
Can be inconsistent with leverage
Room to improve hand punch
Must redirect at a higher level in NFL

Summary: I noticed Okung last summer when watching tape on Brandon Pettigrew and I pegged him as a potential star in 2008. He has all the makings of a Pro Bowl-caliber left tackle and has the upside to potentially warrant a No. 1 overall pick. If he can hone his technique slightly over the summer, I would be shocked to see him fall out of the first five picks next year barring injury. Okung has practically everything you look for in an offensive tackle. Last name pronounced OH-KOONG.

Player Comparison: Joe Thomas. Thomas and Okung have very similar frames with very good intangibles and the upside to dominate at the next level. Both had polished pass protection skills in college.

Saccopoo · 02-03-2010, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Why does he have to be a Pro Bowler?

Christ, the PB is nothing more than a popularity contest.

Michael Roos is one of the better young LT's in the game, and he's been to ONE Pro Bowl.

You lost what little credibility you had left when you compared Okung to Joe ****ing Thomas.

Jesus OTW, you really have to quit taking things so literally. You get completely worked up on minutia.

How about All-Pro? Does that work for you better than Pro Bowl?

The dude said he had a high ceiling. Higher than anyone in this draft. A guy with that high of a ceiling should be considered an All-Pro level type of guy, right?

So I want to know, from the schmuck that originally said it, what he thinks gives Albert that high ceiling potential.

Mecca · 02-02-2010, 06:16 PM

I like how he posted a guy calling Okung safe as a positive. Lets get all jazzed up about a guy who is basically described as not being a great athlete or an elite prospect but he's safe. Drafting a black John Tait at 5 man lets get pumped!

And for that other point, you could put Cassel behind the Chiefs line Green had and he'd still get sacked 40 times, it's who he is.

WildTurkey · 02-02-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I like how he posted a guy calling Okung safe as a positive. Lets get all jazzed up about a guy who is basically described as not being a great athlete or an elite prospect but he's safe. Drafting a black John Tait at 5 man lets get pumped!

And for that other point, you could put Cassel behind the Chiefs line Green had and he'd still get sacked 40 times, it's who he is.

"Black" John Tait... I like that.. I think that is how I will refer to Okung from now on..... rep

Ralphy Boy · 02-02-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey

"Black" John Tait... I like that.. I think that is how I will refer to Okung from now on..... rep

Yeah but is this Black John Tait also left-handed?

Was it Gunther or Carl who said he would be a natural LT because he was left-handed?

WildTurkey · 02-02-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

Yeah but is this Black John Tait also left-handed?

Was it Gunther or Carl who said he would be a natural LT because he was left-handed?

Okung wishes he was left handed like Tait

Saccopoo · 02-02-2010, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey

Okung wishes he was left handed like Tait

Dude, don't be stupid in an effort to make the "Don't draft a offensive lineman/Big 12 player ever" crowd think you are cool.

Tait was an excellent offensive lineman.

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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-802950	I like how he posted a guy calling Okung safe as a positive. Lets get all jazzed up about a guy who is basically described as not being a great athlete or an elite prospect but he's safe. Drafting a black John Tait at 5 man lets get pumped! And for that other point, you could put Cassel behind the Chiefs line Green had and he'd still get sacked 40 times, it's who he is.
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