GBN Report: 2010 SENIOR BOWL GAME REVIEW - Page 3

googlegoogle · 02-05-2010, 10:38 PM

NT's sound intriguing.

RustShack · 02-06-2010, 05:39 PM

Graham isn't a bad player, but I would rather get someone who can start at the OTHER OLB spot and just stick with Hali. Hali is essentially another DL just standing up, and having Graham would be like having 5 DL just with two standing up.

**The Bad Guy** · 02-07-2010, 02:07 AM

I don't even know why you are wasting your time with Saca. It's obvious he hates Albert, that Albert will only get better and the only way this team can possibly improve is by adding Russell Okung to the offensive line and moving Albert to a position he's never played before.

**AustinChief** · 02-07-2010, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I don't even know why you are wasting your time with Saca. It's obvious he hates Albert, that Albert will only get better and the only way this team can possibly improve is by adding Russell Okung to the offensive line and moving Albert to a position he's never played before.

HEY I am fine moving Albert back to LG with a genuine ELITE LT.. Okung isn't it (IMHO) but given Alberts improvement in the last 2 months of the season.. it is idiotic to wastea high pick on LT when we have MUCH higher needs that ARE PROVEN to be deficits. Albert at the VERY LEAST is a Pro Bowl POSSIBILITY... Last I checked no one at NT, S, or WR was...

aturnis · 02-07-2010, 02:48 PM

Hell, look at this. These guys have adjusted the stats so that a player who is not at fault does not take fault for a sack. link

It says Branden Albert was only truly responsible for 6 sacks on the season. Not only that, but it also says that the Oline was responsible for 31 of the 42(?) sacks. Cassel and Haley take the blame for the rest.

Also, found this from a poster over at Walterforums. Interesting breakdown.

Basically breaks down # of sacks per team, then adds the % of pass vs. run plays.

The average team gave up 34.25 sacks this season. The Chiefs gave up 8 more than the average, ranking 25th in pass blocking proficiency.

6 sacks came from LT
6 from the TE's (These guys were obviously over matched)
5 to the RG spot (definitely needs to be addressed, on the team or not. Smith/Harris/Brown?)
4 the right tackles
4 from RB/FB (Already been upgraded by cutting LJ who allowed 3)
4 from Wade Smith (played too many spots to be lumped in at one spot)
1 to Rudy Niswanger (bit of a surprise, make me ? their stats a little)
1 to Brian Waters

So with a better OC, better QB play(assuming Weis can help Cassel speed up his reads), better RB play(which had already come into effect at the latter half of the season) and better TE play(Don't deny it, it's not a sexy position, but a good TE would really help this offense block and move the chains) Those numbers could easily come down below average.

Like I said in previous posts, I'm willing to give Albert another year. His should be the hardest spot to play and therefore the hardest to learn and adjust to. The new offense should have affected him the most.

milkman · 02-07-2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Hell, look at this. These guys have adjusted the stats so that a player who is not at fault does not take fault for a sack. link

It says Branden Albert was only truly responsible for 6 sacks on the season. Not only that, but it also says that the Oline was responsible for 31 of the 42(?) sacks. Cassel and Haley take the blame for the rest.

Also, found this from a poster over at Walterforums. Interesting breakdown.

Basically breaks down # of sacks per team, then adds the % of pass vs. run plays.

The average team gave up 34.25 sacks this season. The Chiefs gave up 8 more than the average, ranking 25th in pass blocking proficiency.

6 sacks came from LT
6 from the TE's (These guys were obviously over matched)
5 to the RG spot (definitely needs to be addressed, on the team or not. Smith/Harris/Brown?)
4 the right tackles
4 from RB/FB (Already been upgraded by cutting LJ who allowed 3)
4 from Wade Smith (played too many spots to be lumped in at one spot)
1 to Rudy Niswanger (bit of a surprise, make me ? their stats a little)
1 to Brian Waters

So with a better OC, better QB play(assuming Weis can help Cassel speed up his reads), better RB play(which had already come into effect at the latter half of the season) and better TE play(Don't deny it, it's not a sexy position, but a good TE would really help this offense block and move the chains) Those numbers could easily come down below average.

Like I said in previous posts, I'm willing to give Albert another year. His should be the hardest spot to play and therefore the hardest to learn and adjust to. The new offense should have affected him the most.

The number for Rudy Niswanger isn't really surprising, given that anytime that Cassel even sniffed pressure up the middle, he stated moving, almost always before it was actually necessary.

**DeezNutz** · 02-07-2010, 03:45 PM

Coming out, Hali was considered a high-motor player who was pretty polished but possessed limited upside.

Surprise. The evaluations were correct.

Mr. Laz · 02-07-2010, 06:25 PM

where do you guys get all the fuggin energy to argue endlessly about this crap??

i must seriously be getting old

milkman · 02-07-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

where do you guys get all the fuggin energy to argue endlessly about this crap??

i must seriously be getting old

Come on, Laz.

You're 10 years younger than I am?

More?

**BossChief** · 02-08-2010, 12:31 PM

If Graham, Iupati and Cody are all on the board at 2a, who would you guys take?

Im taking Graham and trying like hell to package Atls 2b and other picks to move up to take either of the others.

DrRyan · 02-08-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

If Graham, Iupati and Cody are all on the board at 2a, who would you guys take?

I would probably take Graham. But, I would like to see how he does at his pro day standing up instead of from a three point stance. Admittedly, I did not see him play much at Michigan this year(some in the ND and OSU games).

**AustinChief** · 02-08-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DrRyan

I would probably take Graham. But, I would like to see how he does at his pro day standing up instead of from a three point stance. Admittedly, I did not see him play much at Michigan this year(some in the ND and OSU games).

See my post regarding his career as a standout linebacker before U-M

Mr. Laz · 02-09-2010, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

If Graham, Iupati and Cody are all on the board at 2a, who would you guys take?

Im taking Graham and trying like hell to package Atls 2b and other picks to move up to take either of the others.

1. Graham
2. Iupati
3. Cody

Graham gets the nod because of the position he plays

**The Bad Guy** · 02-08-2010, 05:05 PM

I loved that Saccoshit just got owned by the ruler of Chiefsplanet.

**AustinChief** · 02-08-2010, 05:11 PM

In a perfect world, Berry would slip to us (barring shoulder concerns) then Graham falls to our 2a... and Washington (TCU) falls to our 3. Alot invested in the D, but all would contribute immediately.

(I'd take someone like Maurkice Pouncey with the 2b.. or best WR available)

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RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3036954	Graham isn't a bad player, but I would rather get someone who can start at the OTHER OLB spot and just stick with Hali. Hali is essentially another DL just standing up, and having Graham would be like having 5 DL just with two standing up. __________________
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02-07-2010, 02:07 AM	#3
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	I don't even know why you are wasting your time with Saca. It's obvious he hates Albert, that Albert will only get better and the only way this team can possibly improve is by adding Russell Okung to the offensive line and moving Albert to a position he's never played before. __________________
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02-07-2010, 02:48 PM	#5
aturnis MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $9975811	Hell, look at this. These guys have adjusted the stats so that a player who is not at fault does not take fault for a sack. link It says Branden Albert was only truly responsible for 6 sacks on the season. Not only that, but it also says that the Oline was responsible for 31 of the 42(?) sacks. Cassel and Haley take the blame for the rest. Also, found this from a poster over at Walterforums. Interesting breakdown. Basically breaks down # of sacks per team, then adds the % of pass vs. run plays. The average team gave up 34.25 sacks this season. The Chiefs gave up 8 more than the average, ranking 25th in pass blocking proficiency. 6 sacks came from LT 6 from the TE's (These guys were obviously over matched) 5 to the RG spot (definitely needs to be addressed, on the team or not. Smith/Harris/Brown?) 4 the right tackles 4 from RB/FB (Already been upgraded by cutting LJ who allowed 3) 4 from Wade Smith (played too many spots to be lumped in at one spot) 1 to Rudy Niswanger (bit of a surprise, make me ? their stats a little) 1 to Brian Waters So with a better OC, better QB play(assuming Weis can help Cassel speed up his reads), better RB play(which had already come into effect at the latter half of the season) and better TE play(Don't deny it, it's not a sexy position, but a good TE would really help this offense block and move the chains) Those numbers could easily come down below average. Like I said in previous posts, I'm willing to give Albert another year. His should be the hardest spot to play and therefore the hardest to learn and adjust to. The new offense should have affected him the most.
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02-08-2010, 12:31 PM	#10
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1775912	If Graham, Iupati and Cody are all on the board at 2a, who would you guys take? Im taking Graham and trying like hell to package Atls 2b and other picks to move up to take either of the others. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	I loved that Saccoshit just got owned by the ruler of Chiefsplanet. __________________
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02-08-2010, 05:11 PM	#15
AustinChief Administrator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin Casino cash: $-774998	In a perfect world, Berry would slip to us (barring shoulder concerns) then Graham falls to our 2a... and Washington (TCU) falls to our 3. Alot invested in the D, but all would contribute immediately. (I'd take someone like Maurkice Pouncey with the 2b.. or best WR available)
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