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Old 04-18-2010, 08:24 PM   #1
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If I were GM, I would be willing to trade down only if given a king's ransom. I would presume that would be more difficult to accomplish prior to the draft because teams won't know today who will actually be available on draft day. If we do trade down, we would be better off doing it on draft day and sticking it to some team that is in love with a specific player.
uummmm ok. ANY trade down beyond pick one would be done on draft day.
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:22 AM   #2
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I'm glad so many of you are smarter than Pioli.

I'm all for trading down and still being able to get an Earl Thomas ,Dan Williams or even Taylor Mays
Trading down a playmaker for a safe but relatively effective player is a horrible decision. That's essentially what they're doing here.

If they're trading down, they need to either get two first day picks or they need to take a guy with playmaker potential, like potentially a 3-4 OLB.

It's not like last year, when it was pretty much Sanchez or second-rate first round prospects. This year, Berry is very likely going to be on our board and there isn't a single person who would disagree that this kid is going to be a playmaker.
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:24 AM   #3
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Trading down a playmaker for a safe but relatively effective player is a horrible decision. That's essentially what they're doing here.

If they're trading down, they need to either get two first day picks or they need to take a guy with playmaker potential, like potentially a 3-4 OLB.

It's not like last year, when it was pretty much Sanchez or second-rate first round prospects. This year, Berry is very likely going to be on our board and there isn't a single person who would disagree that this kid is going to be a playmaker.
What if Berry gets killed in an auto accident the day after we draft him. Then you'll wish we had traded down and taken Earl Thomas.
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:27 AM   #4
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What if Berry gets killed in an auto accident the day after we draft him. Then you'll wish we had traded down and taken Earl Thomas.
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Old 04-18-2010, 12:20 PM   #5
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Trading down a playmaker for a safe but relatively effective player is a horrible decision. That's essentially what they're doing here.

If they're trading down, they need to either get two first day picks or they need to take a guy with playmaker potential, like potentially a 3-4 OLB.

It's not like last year, when it was pretty much Sanchez or second-rate first round prospects. This year, Berry is very likely going to be on our board and there isn't a single person who would disagree that this kid is going to be a playmaker.
I think it's better than 50/50 but there is no guaranteed player ever.
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:19 AM   #6
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Not my first choice but if Berry or Clausen aren't going to happen then go for it. Just glad the seem to be unwilling to trade back into the 20's.
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:19 AM   #7
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:24 AM   #8
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Clark Hunt's business model is something to behold.

Pay a GM 5 million a year.

Pay 2 coordinators over 4 million combined a year.

Pay the HC 3 million a year.

Have the lowest ****ing payroll in the entire NFL.

Reward shit players with big contracts, have your highest paid player be a 5 technique who can't rush the QB.

I'm going to open up a garage and pay a top mechanic. Then I'm going to buy the mechanic some spare tools that I picked up at a junk yard. That should really benefit my business.

If I could rewind the tape to when I was 9, I'd pick a new ****ing team. This shit makes me ****ing furious.
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:26 AM   #9
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Clark Hunt's business model is something to behold.

Pay a GM 5 million a year.

Pay 2 coordinators over 4 million combined a year.

Pay the HC 3 million a year.

Have the lowest ****ing payroll in the entire NFL.

Reward shit players with big contracts, have your highest paid player be a 5 technique who can't rush the QB.

I'm going to open up a garage and pay a top mechanic. Then I'm going to buy the mechanic some spare tools that I picked up at a junk yard. That should really benefit my business.

If I could rewind the tape to when I was 9, I'd pick a new ****ing team. This shit makes me ****ing furious.

Calm down, just remember Carl is gone and Pioli AND Clark are both way smarter than you.
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:27 AM   #10
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Calm down, just remember Carl is gone and Pioli AND Clark are both way smarter than you.
When you post something substancial, please let me know.
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:28 AM   #11
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Ok.

I have that scheduled for Tuesday.
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:29 AM   #12
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Calm down, just remember Carl is gone and Pioli AND Clark are both way smarter than you.
Why would I remember something that hasn't been proven?
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:39 AM   #13
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Why would I remember something that hasn't been proven?
Look at what Pioli has done in his first full year.

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09 Draft, Tyson Jackson ? I think we'll be happy in the foreseeable future with him

There is absolutely NO reason to say Pioli isn't doing things right. You'll see a solid draft this year but people who think Eric Berry is Jesus just don't look at the big picture.
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:45 AM   #14
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Look at what Pioli has done in his first full year.

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ALL Solid Moves

09 Draft, Tyson Jackson ? I think we'll be happy in the foreseeable future with him

There is absolutely NO reason to say Pioli isn't doing things right. You'll see a solid draft this year but people who think Eric Berry is Jesus just don't look at the big picture.
If I look at what Pioli has done his first full year, I fire his dumb ass, yesterday.

This offseason has been better than his first offseason, and season, but he has a hell of a long way to go to show me that he isn't just some dumbass that exemplifies the Peter Principle.
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Old 04-18-2010, 05:33 PM   #15
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09 Draft, Tyson Jackson ? I think we'll be happy in the foreseeable future with him.
I really hope so. I remember Neil Smith had bust written all over him in his first pro year.
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