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Old 05-03-2010, 12:03 PM   #1
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Moss and Welker get acquired because of draft failures, if they had hit on a WR pick instead of using a high 2 on Chad Jackson they aren't making trades for 30+ year old WR's.

Age is why the team is starting to fall, teams age when they don't properly draft young players that can be, this concept is pretty easy to understand.


Welker was like 25 or 26 when they acquired him...

Moss went from the premiere NFL receiver to Oakland where they pawned him off for a 4th round pick...

The Patriots spent a 2nd, a 4th and a 7th for two all-pro receivers who turned that offense into a freaking juggernaut.

and you're trying to act like the 2007 draft was a failure?

THEY GOT MOSS AND WELKER OUT OF THAT DRAFT...THOSE TWO ALONE MAKE THAT DRAFT AN A+++++++++++++++++
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Old 05-03-2010, 12:01 PM   #2
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and now the Jets have all of the hype...

and I'm going to win an assload of money when the Pats win the division yet again...

That will be the easy money futures pick of the year...

The Jets might be favored to win that division...and when that happens...I'm dropping $1,000 on WHATEVER odds they give the Patriots...
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Old 05-03-2010, 12:02 PM   #3
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I'd think the Ravens should have more hype than the Jets, their offseason is better.
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Old 05-03-2010, 12:03 PM   #4
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I'd think the Ravens should have more hype than the Jets, their offseason is better.
they are in different ****ing divisions, dumb ****
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I'd think the Ravens should have more hype than the Jets, their offseason is better.
Durrr, I wonder why that's not happening.
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they traded for a 30 year old Randy Moss in 2007, and a 26 year old Wes Welker...but solid point about trading for 30+ year old receivers to mask past failures
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they traded for a 30 year old Randy Moss in 2007, and a 26 year old Wes Welker...but solid point about trading for 30+ year old receivers to mask past failures
Even the Patriots fan here is admitting to FA and trade moves to mask draft failures, so maybe you should look in the mirror when you wanna call someone a dumb****.
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Old 05-03-2010, 12:10 PM   #8
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Even the Patriots fan here is admitting to FA and trade moves to mask draft failures, so maybe you should look in the mirror when you wanna call someone a dumb****.
well then he's an idiot, too...

they bought Moss for $0.10 on the dollar with a 4th round pick...and Welker for $0.25 on the dollar with a 2nd round pick (and a throw in 7th)...

WHICH MEANS...

2007 was one of their best drafts...ever.

EVER.

How is this so hard to comprehend?
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Old 05-03-2010, 12:16 PM   #9
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well then he's an idiot, too...
Well, I would be fi I actually said what thye're saying I said...
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they bought Moss for $0.10 on the dollar with a 4th round pick...and Welker for $0.25 on the dollar with a 2nd round pick (and a throw in 7th)...

WHICH MEANS...

2007 was one of their best drafts...ever.

EVER.

How is this so hard to comprehend?
This. Especially when 2007 was a weak draft overall.
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Old 05-03-2010, 12:15 PM   #10
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Even the Patriots fan here is admitting to FA and trade moves to mask draft failures, so maybe you should look in the mirror when you wanna call someone a dumb****.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. No team hits 100% on the draft, and of course you use free agency to fill holes. Every team does.

I admit the '06 and '08 drafts by the Patriots weren't great. But who the ehll doesn't trade a 2nd for Welker and a 4 for Moss? Eh? WHO DOESN'T DO THAT?!?!

Is that covering for draft failures at the WR position (Bethel Johnson and Chad Jackson)? Sure, I guess. But if Ozzie Newsome and Bill Polian were perfect, they'd probably have more than 1 SB apiece in the last decade, no?
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You are so heavily invested in the Jets sucking it makes me laugh, you talk about their hype all the ****ing time. From superbowl hype to this so don't give me this bullshit you reerun.
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You are so heavily invested in the Jets sucking it makes me laugh, you talk about their hype all the ****ing time. From superbowl hype to this so don't give me this bullshit you reerun.
What are you talking about?

I think it's HYSTERICAL that they BACKED into the playoffs...Sanchez had a TERRIBLE year...and they are basically the same team they were last year...

They beat a terrible Bengals team (that I predicted would happen)...and then stunned the world when they beat the Chargers (nothing to do with Sanchez, I'll tell you that)...and then the Colts made that defense look like the Chiefs defense...

That team is so overhyped right now it isn't even funny...

They are going to be the odds on favorite to win a division the Pats have OWNED for almost a decade...

You're god damn right I'm excited...the Pats are going to win me EASY money. EASY, EASY money.

I might get 3:1 on the Pats winning that division...

3:1...

In 2007 it was probably 1:10...even last year...it was probably 1:4 or 1:5
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it's worthless...

these guys are just trying to further push their anti-Pioli agenda...
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Look, trading for Moss in a vacuum with nothing else factored in is a great move, I never said it wasn't, I like Moss as a player.

It's that while he's aging they've got nothing behind him at the position. The same can be said for numerous others, when you have 15 picks every year at the very least your team should have solid depth, you shouldn't have Sam Aiken getting WR playing time or starting a scrub RB in a league where a 5th rounder will pull a starting RB.

Trading for Moss and Welker is not the problem, the problem is those are the best things they've done with their picks because they've missed a ton as of late.
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Look, trading for Moss in a vacuum with nothing else factored in is a great move, I never said it wasn't, I like Moss as a player.

It's that while he's aging they've got nothing behind him at the position. The same can be said for numerous others, when you have 15 picks every year at the very least your team should have solid depth, you shouldn't have Sam Aiken getting WR playing time or starting a scrub RB in a league where a 5th rounder will pull a starting RB.

Trading for Moss and Welker is not the problem, the problem is those are the best things they've done with their picks because they've missed a ton as of late.
Wow. I hope the Patriots can make the playoffs or win a Super Bowl in my lifetime, considering the s****y GM I'm stuck with....
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