Haley gambled to win

[Hydrae]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

I was ok with a pass call but all Casshole had to do was throw it over the middle to the wide open fullback and not into triple coverage. The play call was fine, the QB just sucks nuts.

Yep, it was 4th and 2. There was no need to go to the end zone on that throw. Castille was wide open for at least a 1st down if not the touchdown. That is entirely on Cassell's lack of vision.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Hydrae

Yep, it was 4th and 2. There was no need to go to the end zone on that throw. Castille was wide open for at least a 1st down if not the touchdown. That is entirely on Cassell's lack of vision.

Don't forget his lack of throwing talent, and poor pocket awareness.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

I was ok with a pass call but all Casshole had to do was throw it over the middle to the wide open fullback and not into triple coverage. The play call was fine, the QB just sucks nuts.

If Bob Dole remembers correctly, Moeaki came open behind the target, as well.

Mark Castle seems to have a gift for finding the receiver that's triple-covered.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I should add that the only thing I disliked about the 4th-down decision was putting the ball in Cassel's hands. In this case, give it to our best player, Charles, and not our weakest.

Another example of trying to be too clever by half ... doing the unexpected, and all.

I mean, who would have thought that Mark Cassclamp would complete a 2-yard pass into the endzone? Nobody, that's who.

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[DaFace]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I should add that the only thing I disliked about the 4th-down decision was putting the ball in Cassel's hands. In this case, give it to our best player, Charles, and not our weakest.

Agree on that one.

[gblowfish]

Note to Coach Haley:
Dial 1-800-BETS-OFF

[Spott]

If it was 4th and less than a yard it might be ok to go for it, but it was 4th and a long 2 from the 4 and you have to take the points in that situation.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Spott

If it was 4th and less than a yard it might be ok to go for it, but it was 4th and a long 2 from the 4 and you have to take the points in that situation.

I disagree, Mr. Spott. Hate to do it, but I must.

Look, normally the Mannings score about a billion points per game ... probably more like an average of 2 billion at home. At that juncture, there was every reason to believe that we were either going to go down in flames or have to score touchdowns in order to keep it close.

There was absolutely no reason to believe otherwise.

And, can we get a friggin' holding call, please? Can you just call one out of 10 or something? Jesus.

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[CupidStunt]

Loved the call and loved the 4th down call.

I agree, calling out Herm AND Haley, one for being the guy who doesn't do it and one for being the guy who does, is stupid.

[FAX]

And then kick it a couple of times into the referee's eyeball!!! 'Cause we're FRIGGIN' CRAZY!!!

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[Donger]

Phew. I'm just glad that he didn't gamble to lose.

[ElGringo]

I disagreed,but understood fourth down, I will not say I dislike haley for this call. I liked the onside kick to start the game, shows faith in the defense. Haley basically said I believe we can do it, and if not, our D is good enough to stop them. I do enjoy the gambler in him, and have enjoyed the chances he takes, it is incredibly refreshing after the parade of, well, guess we have to call them coaches, we had before him.

[kysirsoze]

I hated the fourth down attempt and this is why:

1. We just held them to a field goal on a short field. That was huge. Our defense was playing well, so have a little faith in them.

2. Our offense had marched down the field on an excellent drive. No need to act like we can't do it again. Take the points. Sometimes conservative isn't a dirty word.


FTR I liked the onside to start.

[Lonewolf Ed]

I was surprised with the onside kick and thought maybe Haley was trying to rattle the Colts by letting them know right away that the Chiefs would be unpredictable. Against the 49ers, it was quite the chess match and it worked; San Fransisco's coaching staff got owned. When KC went for it on 4th down and didn't make the TD, that was one call I didn't like. I think tying the score would have been a good thing at that point. Sure, the lead is better, but putting the first points on the board for the team looked like the way to go to me. When Cassel threw into quadruple coverage on the other attempt, I could see he was locked in on Bowe the whole time. If he was quick to assess the situation, couldn't he have run the ball and at least made a first down? Seeing four men converge on Bowe should have made him think, "I saw how many came in to rush, plus four... someone is open or I have space to run..." and then do it! If I recall, it was 4th and 2, and not 4th and goal? It seems that the closer to the goal line, the less creative Cassel becomes.

[boogblaster]

he gambled .. it didn't work .. his defense finally ran out of gas .. blame is on the offense again .....