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Old 10-30-2010, 07:03 PM   #1
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Flowers runs a 4.3 if you watch him on the field. His straight line speed is phenomenal, and he's got fluid hips. There's basically no holes in his game except for his height.

I am so ****ing proud of Tamba. This guy has come so far, played through so much criticism, and is the happiest guy on the field when we do well. Flowers has faced none of the criticism Tamba has, he plays a position that takes less of a transition to the NFL.

Don't stop now, Tamba. Keep ****ing shit up.
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Old 10-30-2010, 07:05 PM   #2
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"In 41 targets, he’s only allowed one pass of 20+ yards."

And Andre Johnson had get away with murder to get it.

And Flowers still won't let it go.

**** yes.
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Old 10-30-2010, 07:41 PM   #3
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:06 PM   #4
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Tamba Hali's parents are the ones to blame.....he tries hard he just doesn't have the natural talent to make it work.
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I don't think any amount of coaching is going to make Tamba Hali better, he just isn't very talented.
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I think we should just take an end to take one, we need another Tamba Hali out there, it'll be great.
Actually, it would be awesome, Mecca.

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If this team goes to 3-4 Tamba Hali has no position hell he doesn't have a position in a 4-3 either.
He's so badass he created a new position, evidently.

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If you put Tamba Hali at OLB in any scheme you are just asking for bad things to happen.
To the quarterback.

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We don't have rush backers for a 3-4....and if anyone suggest Tamba Hali as a rush backer I'll back hand them.
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Also Tamba Hali playing OLB is a really really funny thought.
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You know what happens when you don't draft on potential and draft more on what a guy is...you get Tamba Hali, hows that working out?
PRETTY ****ING GOOD!!!!

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Flowers is good enough to do what's asked of him in a press man situation he's more of a 2 than a 1 though.
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:08 PM   #5
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Actually, it would be awesome, Mecca.



He's so badass he created a new position, evidently.



To the quarterback.





ARE YOU LAUGHING NOW?



PRETTY ****ING GOOD!!!!
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:11 PM   #6
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:20 PM   #8
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Dane had a pretty good one (for him, not the haters) where he said he could be pretty good if he actually drops to the weight he is currently playing at.

You know whats crazy about Hali?

When he was at Penn State, he played DT until his final year iirc.
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Old 10-31-2010, 08:21 AM   #9
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Dane had a pretty good one (for him, not the haters) where he said he could be pretty good if he actually drops to the weight he is currently playing at.

You know whats crazy about Hali?

When he was at Penn State, he played DT until his final year iirc.
So Dane is still wrong.

Where is this magical Hali lost weight info contained? I see this thrown out there all the time as if it were a well known fact and as I have stated several times Hali said to me in person that he put on weight to play OLB in the 3-4. He didn't lose weight. Why is this considered fact around here?

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I've already owned my mistake on Hali, but most of my observations were when Hali was much heavier.

He lost a lot of weight, added some muscle and is much quicker now even than he was a year ago.

2 years ago and before, in a 43, at LDE, he was a huge liability in run defense.

I admit, while I was happy to get a new staff, and had been hammering ****her and Krumrie for their shortcomings, I still underestimated how much difference an actual real coach would make.

What gets me is how you useless ****ers can't ever get over your butt hurt.
No he didn't MM.
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Old 10-31-2010, 08:26 AM   #10
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So Dane is still wrong.

Where is this magical Hali lost weight info contained? I see this thrown out there all the time as if it were a well known fact and as I have stated several times Hali said to me in person that he put on weight to play OLB in the 3-4. He didn't lose weight. Why is this considered fact around here?



No he didn't MM.
Let me rephrase that.
He lost fat and gained muscle.

He's leaner and sleeker.
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Let me rephrase that.
He lost fat and gained muscle.

He's leaner and sleeker.
Very possible.
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So Dane is still wrong.

Where is this magical Hali lost weight info contained? I see this thrown out there all the time as if it were a well known fact and as I have stated several times Hali said to me in person that he put on weight to play OLB in the 3-4. He didn't lose weight. Why is this considered fact around here?



No he didn't MM.
Yes he did
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Yes he did
Look I am not going to argue this all day. Find some evidence that will cause me to believe that he lied to me and I will change my thoughts on the matter.
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Old 10-31-2010, 08:46 AM   #14
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Look I am not going to argue this all day. Find some evidence that will cause me to believe that he lied to me and I will change my thoughts on the matter.
Contrary to popular belief, they don't hold a public weigh-in every 6 months.

There is no evidence or even close to anything to suggest that the claim is true, except for the fact that he's twice as quick off the edge, his head looks smaller, his body looks leaner, he was part of a massive team weight loss program in year 1, and he is succeeding at a position where speed is a lot more important than the bullrushing he used to do in a 4-3. Other than that, there is nothing to even remotely suggest that he's lost weight and gotten leaner.
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I agree that Hali is a nice rotational DE. Sucks for us that he happened to be a first rounder. He's an NFL player, though, which is more than we can say about many a draft pick we've had.
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Dorsey definite hope and potential. McBride and Tank should still be able to develop.

But Hali is what he is. He's the DJ of the line, and that was absolutely a good comparison.
I wish Hali could be more like Turk and Tank.

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Thinking about playing Hali at OLB is suicidal. A colossal disaster waiting to happen.

I think Hali struggles because he lacks the necessary explosion, overall speed, strength, etc. In short, he's a max-effort guy who lacks the type of elite athleticism necessary to be an impact player.

I give him credit for being an NFL player, just not one you'd be happy having drafted in round 1.
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I still have no doubt that Hali is going to be a well below-average LB and someone whom this organization will be looking to replace at the earliest possible moment.
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I'll go ahead and fall on this grenade and take the heat when I'm wrong:

Tamba Hali will never make the Pro-Bowl.
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