Chiefs Nnamdi, Louis Murphy out... Zach Miller on crutches... - Page 6

**The Bad Guy** · 11-03-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by manjy90

What is this observation based on?

Pure hope. Much like what most Raider fans have in their parole officers.

Championship · 11-03-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by manjy90

What is this observation based on?

Based on the fact that his physical skillset wont let him get any better. He's not going to get any taller, or get any faster.

He's stuck in that body. It's a huge disadvantage when he goes up against taller receivers. For him to be as good as he is now, is an accomplishment worth celebrating in itself. Bravo.

But he is not on Nnamdi's level.

beer bacon · 11-03-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Championship

Based on the fact that his physical skillset wont let him get any better. He's not going to get any taller, or get any faster.

He's stuck in that body. It's a huge disadvantage when he goes up against taller receivers. For him to be as good as he is now, is an accomplishment worth celebrating in itself. Bravo.

But he is not on Nnamdi's level.

Do a lot of NFL players get taller or faster once they get to the NFL?

manjy90 · 11-03-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Championship

Based on the fact that his physical skillset wont let him get any better. He's not going to get any taller, or get any faster.

He's stuck in that body. It's a huge disadvantage when he goes up against taller receivers. For him to be as good as he is now, is an accomplishment worth celebrating in itself. Bravo.

But he is not on Nnamdi's level.

The Raiders have drafted players the last 5 years based only on "physical skillset" but still haven't caught on that it's only a minor part of being a football player. Taylor Mays is faster, taller, and stronger than any DB in the league but you won't hear a single person refer to him as elite anytime soon. Flowers' best asset is how physical he is at bump and run. Different styles of play suite different players. DRC gets caught chasing guys up and down the field because he thinks he can always rely on his speed to make up for his lack of timing and ball skills. Flowers isn't that guy. He's gonna study you and force to play at a level where you're uncomfortable.

Now, I'm not saying he's better than Nnamdi. Not yet. Consistency and longevity are half of what makes a truly great player what he is. This is essentially Flowers' breakout season, to discount that would be nothing but blind homerism. And as for analysis about him reaching his "peak," that's total nonsense. He's a 24 year old, 3rd year starting CB for a National Football League team. He hasn't learned everything he can about the position yet, not close.

**Iowanian** · 11-03-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Championship

But he is not on Nnamdi's level.

Finally, something we can agree on. Flowers is Not on Nnamdi's level, he's a ladder rung Above him in both skill and upside.

Raider fans want to jabber about the Chiefs lack of passing game, which might be legitimate if the Chiefs hadn't been running the ball down the throats of opposing defenses for 200yards per game.

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Chiefs rush for 300 yards sunday.

HotRoute · 11-03-2010, 03:16 PM

Is it Sunday yet???? Man I'm getting pumped for this game already

**Bane** · 11-03-2010, 03:16 PM

"Nnamdi, Louis Murphy out... Zach Miller on crutches"

Oh well ****'em.They're all overrated pieces of shit anyway.

Red Beans · 11-03-2010, 03:20 PM

Damn, the Faiders get to .500 by winning 2 in a row and the trolls come out in full force. While I'm going to support Flowers over Nnamdi in coverage, I know it's a small bit of homerism. But tell me who makes more tackles and who has more missed tackles? I don't even have the stat line, but there's no doubt that Flowers is lights out when compared to Assamaholea in the department...

Hays · 11-03-2010, 03:18 PM

Flowers>Nnamdi????
uh lets wait and see.

As it is right now Qb's won't throw his way. They do throw Flowers way.

beer bacon · 11-03-2010, 03:19 PM

Flowers statistically has been the best corner in the NFL this season.

RustShack · 11-03-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

Flowers statistically has been the best corner in the NFL this season.

Raiders live in the past. They don't get simple concepts like this.

JTagg7754 · 11-03-2010, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hays

Flowers>Nnamdi????
uh lets wait and see.

As it is right now Qb's won't throw his way. They do throw Flowers way.

They haven't thrown at Nnamdi in years. Oh but just one thing to show you, against AZ, he was on Fitz for 7 pass attempts for 1 completion for 18 yards and broke up 5 passes. Just a small sample.

Seriously,a lot of people here are calling Raiders fans homers but if you HONESTLY believe this, you're beyond a ****ing homer.

ToxSocks · 11-03-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JTagg7754

They haven't thrown at Nnamdi in years. Oh but just one thing to show you, against AZ, he was on Fitz for 7 pass attempts for 1 completion for 18 yards and broke up 5 passes. Just a small sample.

Seriously,a lot of people here are calling Raiders fans homers but if you HONESTLY believe this, you're beyond a ****ing homer.

And holding fitz to those numbers is suppose to be impressive when he has no QB? Get Real.

43 yards against the rams.

56 against SD

30 against Seattle.

The Raiders didn't stop him, his QB did.

JTagg7754 · 11-03-2010, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

And holding fitz to those numbers is suppose to be impressive when he has no QB? Get Real.

43 yards against the rams.

56 against SD

30 against Seattle.

The Raiders didn't stop him, his QB did.

You are the dumbest ****ing poster on this board. THAT is an accomplishment. Seriously. There are some ****ing reeruns here and some intelligent posters but YOU are ****ing stupid. Seriously. I suggest never showing your face.

Watch the Seattle game. This is how I know all your stats are bogus. Mike Williams, who Nnamdi was on all game til her got hurt, did NOT have one catch til the very next play after Nnamdi got hurt. Even the announcers said it.

Your posts are bogus, you're bogus, and pretty much a waste of the Earth's oxygen. Anyone who believes anything you say or even reads your words instantly becomes dumber. Congrats on your accomplishment.

ToxSocks · 11-03-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JTagg7754

You are the dumbest ****ing poster on this board. THAT is an accomplishment. Seriously. There are some ****ing reeruns here and some intelligent posters but YOU are ****ing stupid. Seriously. I suggest never showing your face.

Watch the Seattle game. This is how I know all your stats are bogus. Mike Williams, who Nnamdi was on all game til her got hurt, did NOT have one catch til the very next play after Nnamdi got hurt. Even the announcers said it.

Your posts are bogus, you're bogus, and pretty much a waste of the Earth's oxygen. Anyone who believes anything you say or even reads your words instantly becomes dumber. Congrats on your accomplishment.

Oh shit! Mike Williams! Watch out!

I can't believe he stopped the incredible Mike Williams.

And yeah, you got it right. "Till HER got hurt"

That settles it. 1st ballot HOF now. Write it down.

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Red Beans Not dead yet... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Indian Creek Casino cash: $1659903	Damn, the Faiders get to .500 by winning 2 in a row and the trolls come out in full force. While I'm going to support Flowers over Nnamdi in coverage, I know it's a small bit of homerism. But tell me who makes more tackles and who has more missed tackles? I don't even have the stat line, but there's no doubt that Flowers is lights out when compared to Assamaholea in the department...
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