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Cassel 35 30.70%
Bowe 56 49.12%
Flowers 23 20.18%
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:38 PM   #1
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Special teams.

Berry's holding call took a TD return off the board.

Studebaker's holding call took a FG off the board

Nobody touches the returner on the opening kickoff of second half, giving up a TD.

Not fielding the football cleanly for the possesion in OT has us starting inside the 20 yard line, where Weiss is happy to call us an epic 3 and out series.
Yeah, they were absolutely awful.
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:26 AM   #2
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Only one of these three had an opportunity to make a relatively routine play that 90% of players in their position make every time.

Bowe fo sho
I disagree.
On the INT, a QB who has no pressure and a wide open WR in the end zone for a very short pass? Doesn't get more routine than that.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:51 PM   #3
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You guys are basing this off past performances. All Flowers has to do is knock that pass down rather than try to pad his stats. Game over. It's easier to knock a pass down than it is to catch one. Why do you think they play defense?
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:54 PM   #4
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You guys are basing this off past performances. All Flowers has to do is knock that pass down rather than try to pad his stats. Game over. It's easier to knock a pass down than it is to catch one. Why do you think they play defense?
Had Flowers knocked that pass down there still would have been time left in the game. It is not like it was a hail mary or something.

I agree in hindsight knock the damn thing down but with however many seconds were left (30ish??????) I understand why he tried to pick it.

Just my line of thinking but given that Bowe's catch would have been much easier to make than Flower's interception, not to mention Bowe's job is to catch the damn ball
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:55 PM   #5
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You guys are basing this off past performances. All Flowers has to do is knock that pass down rather than try to pad his stats. Game over. It's easier to knock a pass down than it is to catch one. Why do you think they play defense?
If it was 4th down, then yes, knock it down. Not on 2nd or 3rd, you make a play. Bowe makes his catch, the Flowers play doesnt happen.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:59 PM   #6
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If it was 4th down, then yes, knock it down. Not on 2nd or 3rd, you make a play. Bowe makes his catch, the Flowers play doesnt happen.
Exactly I think Flowers played like shit but the idea that he should have just slapped it out of the air when he clearly was in the position to make a pick and end the game is stupid.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:51 PM   #7
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How about Weis for denying Charles carries?

I'll always blame Cassel. He's the QB. When the running game isnt working, he needs to make plays.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:52 PM   #8
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:53 PM   #9
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Lots of people to blame, but ultimately it all comes back to Cassel. A real QB knows how to win a game like this one.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:55 PM   #10
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Lots of people to blame, but ultimately it all comes back to Cassel. A real QB knows how to win a game like this one.
And many a real qbs have lost games like this one. Whats your point?
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:58 PM   #11
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And many a real qbs have lost games like this one. Whats your point?
What's your point?

I really don't understand why you insist on defending Cassel every week. He's awful. Absolutely awful. He's the main problem with this team, and it's not even close. Every game has its goats, but Cassel is more than a goat. He's a ****ing terminal illness.
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Flowers gave up big plays
Special teams sucked badly
Bowe dropped a couple easy catches in situations where he could have sealed the game.
But Cassel's dogshit play kept us completely out of the ****ing game from halfway through the second quarter on.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:54 PM   #13
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I voted Cassel. Not because I really think it was his fault, but just because I hate him.
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I voted Cassel. Not because I really think it was his fault, but just because I hate him.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:56 PM   #15
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holding a CB responsible over a QB who threw an int in the endzone?

the defense played a hell of a lot better than the offense, and if the offense had done it's job in the first half while the defense was dominating, the game would never have been in question...

and special teams were more responsible than flowers....and it isn't even close
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