Speaketh, Dear ChiefsPlanet...

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

Do you want to relive the 90s again?

The 90's was great compared to the last few seasons. Always being a playoff contender, making a Championship game...we had some good teams.

You're acting like we could just happen to make a superbowl.....Last time I checked you have to make the playoffs and build a team before you can win a superbowl....That is what we are doing. I think we are on the right path.

You are saying you WANT us to lose. That is ****ing lame IMO. I want to win every game.

[CrazyPhuD]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

The 90's was great compared to the last few seasons. Always being a playoff contender, making a Championship game...we had some good teams.

You're acting like we could just happen to make a superbowl.....Last time I checked you have to make the playoffs and build a team before you can win a superbowl....That is what we are doing. I think we are on the right path.

You are saying you WANT us to lose. That is ****ing lame IMO. I want to win every game.

Hey I want to win games too but the simple fact is we won't win a SB with cassel at the helm. Anything that results in his removal from this team is a positive step forward for this team, if that means losing every reaming game this year then 110% I hope that happens. It's not about winning or losing it's about getting rid of cassel.

Right now it looks like we are following the model of the 90s and that model is absolutely a failed model. It doesn't matter what we do in the regular season, what matters is what we do in the post season and the simple reality is we haven't won a playoff game since 1994. The last time we won a playoff game we had an elite(albeit aging) QB. Since then we haven't won shit. Some people like cock teases, personally I don't, you either win or you lose and the 90s chiefs are my definition of losers.

Following their model will just result in yet another 15 years of frustration. Hey it's great that we're not sucking, but now it's time to take that next step and simply put, we can't take that next step with cassel.

I like winning as much as the next guy, but if we can't actually do something in the playoffs does it really matter what we do in the regular season. See this is the fraud that's placed upon every fan, if you're running your football team as a business you care substantially less about winning in the playoffs. Winning consistently in the regular season is what sells season tickets, the 90s chiefs are a model of this. People will sell out the regular season, and you'll always sell out any games in the playoffs, but if you don't go anywhere what's the point? There's a strong incentive not to suck in the regular season because then you have empty stadiums, less TV revenue and the team may fail. But if you succeed in the regular season and sell out your games is there s strong incentive to win a SB?

I don't think so at least financially, teams are content to make the playoffs and sell out regular season games. But if you do nothing once you get there then what's the point. To me any team that can't win in the playoffs is an extremely mediocre team.

So yes I would take a whole lot of pain this year to give us a chance next year. Anything to get rid of cassel. If we do just 'ok' cassel won't likely get booted, because his contact is too big. But if we lose quite a few games, directly because of him then he is gone, and this team is better off.

Maybe you don't like it, but I'd like to think of the Chiefs as world champions, to me making the playoffs doesn't mean anything any more. There are no prizes for 2nd place.

[Stryker]

We will lose our hold on the AFC West. WE will probably split with Denver, lose to the Chargers, hopefully win against Oakland and lose against Tennessee.

I was shocked at how we started and then...reality hit. We should have won the 3 games we lost and I cannot figure for the life of me how the hell we lose games we are winning? I am sick to my stomach with the way this team has played the lately.

Hoping we get back on track sooner than later. But as of right now?

[DaneMcCloud]

The problem I had with Sunday's game was effort, execution and concentration.

If the Chiefs had played like they did against the Colts and Texans but still lost, I'd be fine with it. Bummed out, yes, but if they lost playing to the best of their abilities, there's nothing more you can ask of this or any team.

They broke down in all phases of the game. Special teams, defense, the run game and the passing game. Mistakes were made by Flowers, Bowe, Lilja and several others which would have altered the outcome.

All of the breakdowns are correctable but it's very clear that if the Chiefs don't play well in all phases of the game, they won't win against teams that are equally matched or better.

They don't have that single, special player on the roster that's able to put the team on his shoulders and in the face of adversity, will this team to a win.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

What are your feelings on the Chiefs since the loss? And don't base it on the fact that we lost, but how we played in that loss. Has your outlook and/or expectations changed? Do you still feel like we are winning this division?

It seems some of the excitement has since disappeared. No more playoff expectations? Our schedule is favorable but just as we can beat anybody, we proved this past Sunday we can lose to even crap teams like the Raiders.

Thoughts?


hugs and kisses,

VT

Wow, just like every other team in the NFL...

[DaWolf]

I expected us to lose the Oakland game. So while it sucked losing a winnable game, I never went into it with the expectation of us winning against that team on the road the way they were playing.

Now if we lose to Denver, it's goodnight...

[crossbow]

We are paying for the decision to spend the third overall draft pick on a reach instead of getting a franchise QB. Other then that, the moves have been solid. The trouble is: the one mistake they made was huge.

At least the Chiefs are fun to watch again and they don't look disorganized and Hermified.

[BossChief]

This place will be rocking again after we destroy the Donkeys this week in a statement game.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by BossChief

This place will be rocking again after we destroy the Donkeys this week in a statement game.

Every "statement game" we've had we've lost.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

My thoughts are that people always overrate this team after a win, and are Chicken Littles after a loss. Few rarely display the ability to see this team in the long term. The events of this season really haven't changed the long term outlook of this franchise very much:

We still need a QB
We still need help rushing the passer
We still need additional depth on the defensive line, especially at NT

[Chiefshrink]

We need to learn as a team to "put the nail in the coffin". We play well enough to win but in golfing terms our guys need to remember to "sign their scorecard", especially Bowe! F**K!!!

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

My thoughts are that people always overrate this team after a win, and are Chicken Littles after a loss. Few rarely display the ability to see this team in the long term. The events of this season really haven't changed the long term outlook of this franchise very much:

We still need a QB
We still need help rushing the passer
We still need additional depth on the defensive line, especially at NT

Do you think this team is winning the division?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

Do you think this team is winning the division?

I don't know. I will say that we've been trending downward for the last four games.

We collapsed in the 4th quarter against Houston.

Although we won big against Jacksonville, that game was pretty close for the first two and a half quarters, and if not for DJ's pick six, it may have come down to the last drive.

We played a truly horrible game against Buffalo and had a number of breakdowns on all levels against the Raiders.

In some ways, this team reminds me of a golfer who worked really hard on his swing while at the range. Normally, that can help you for the first few holes, but after a while your old habits and mechanics start to creep in and your deficiencies rear their head again.

I think some of the coaching from the OTAs and camp as well as the advanced prep work before the season is starting to wear off a bit.

I'd say they are probably 60/40 to win the division just because the schedule is so easy. I thought they were a 7-9 team going into the year, so they should exceed the wins expectation, but they don't look like a team that could finish 11-5 at all. They remind me of the 2008 Dolphins, who did it entirely with smoke, mirrors, and an easy schedule, and once the next year hit, they were a 7-8 win team.

That's what worries me for next year as well.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't know. I will say that we've been trending downward for the last four games.

We collapsed in the 4th quarter against Houston.

Although we won big against Jacksonville, that game was pretty close for the first two and a half quarters, and if not for DJ's pick six, it may have come down to the last drive.

We played a truly horrible game against Buffalo and had a number of breakdowns on all levels against the Raiders.

In some ways, this team reminds me of a golfer who worked really hard on his swing while at the range. Normally, that can help you for the first few holes, but after a while your old habits and mechanics start to creep in and your deficiencies rear their head again.

I think some of the coaching from the OTAs and camp as well as the advanced prep work before the season is starting to wear off a bit.

I'd say they are probably 60/40 to win the division just because the schedule is so easy. I thought they were a 7-9 team going into the year, so they should exceed the wins expectation, but they don't look like a team that could finish 11-5 at all. They remind me of the 2008 Dolphins, who did it entirely with smoke, mirrors, and an easy schedule, and once the next year hit, they were a 7-8 win team.

That's what worries me for next year as well.

Yeah me too. Next year's schedule looks brutal by the way.

[Goldmember]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

My thoughts are that people always overrate this team after a win, and are Chicken Littles after a loss. Few rarely display the ability to see this team in the long term. The events of this season really haven't changed the long term outlook of this franchise very much:

We still need a QB
We still need help rushing the passer
We still need additional depth on the defensive line, especially at NT

Agree with you on those and add that they need a true #1 WR