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Old 12-10-2010, 09:17 PM   #1
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You never know but the fact is, people rarely really change and drafting him at #14 would have likely validated his previous attitude. Going undrafted likely grounded him a bit at least for a while. I doubt being a high draft choice would have motivated him as much.

Hell maybe I am completely wrong.
Actually, you are spot on IMO.

I made the same comment about Dez Bryant in another thread.
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Old 12-10-2010, 09:13 PM   #2
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My Falcons draft had its good moments and its bad ones. Overall it was pretty close to where the players went.

(1,19) Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri (BOOM!! Nailed it baby!!!)
(3,83) Jacoby Ford, WR, Clemson (4,108) <-------reach by 25 picks
(4) Syd'Quan Thompson, CB, California (7) <-------reach by 3 rounds, this kid is gonna be a good player for Denver, knowshit will let us know all about him
(5) Anthony Dixon, RB, Mississippi State (6) <-------reach of 1 round
(5c) Tony Moeaki, TE, Iowa (3) <------------value of basically 3 rounds
(6) Thomas Austin, G/C, Clemson (7) <------reach or 1 round
(7) Aaron Pettrey, K, Ohio State (UDFA) <-----we needed a kicker after Elams retirement, the kid is impressive.
Not bad, I drafted three guys for trhe Falcons that ended up as a first rounder in this redraft. Nailed their first rounder and drafted one guy that was redrafted in the first, in the third (Ford) and the other guy redrafted in the first (Moeaki) in the fifth.

Here was my follow up post in the CP draft talking with Mecca...Again, Pat Angerer (Pronounced 'Anger') was the other Hawkeye I wanted us to draft along with Moeaki.

I also said over and over that IF we were dead set on taking a OT in the first, I would take Bulaga over Okung...but that he was no better than a 10-15 pick...seems my "homerism" (as some call it) is pretty ****ing spot on when it comes to Hawkeye players.

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Remember our discussion about Angerer when you said something like "I don't think I ever jumped out of my skin to pimp an undersized, slow linebacker"

Seems that one of the best evaluating teams in the league agreed with me, even though me and the Colts evidently were the only ones.

Same with Moeaki.

Those two are gonna be really good players in the league.

I may not have watched as much college ball as some on this site, but I am pretty spot on with the ones I have seen.
I would be a beast in evaluating players predraft, if I was able to watch a lo more college ball. IMO of course
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With the way Pouncey has played, I wonder how high his brother will go.

That said, if someone took him at 3rd overall, that would be a gross misuse of draft value.
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With the way Pouncey has played, I wonder how high his brother will go.

That said, if someone took him at 3rd overall, that would be a gross misuse of draft value.
Unless he turned out to be a perennial Pro Bowler, then it would be justified.
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Old 12-10-2010, 09:52 PM   #5
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Unless he turned out to be a perennial Pro Bowler, then it would be justified.
No way.

You can get a perrenial pro bowl quality center in the second round or very late first (at the earliest)

Nick Mangold 29th
Alex Mack 21st

If you spend a top three pick on a center, no matter how good, you should be ridiculed Tyson Jackson style.

Ive watched the Steelers a few times this year and he is a damn good player, but not THAT good.

I havent watched a lot of Florida games, I wonder if his brother has the skill set to be a center and not just a guard...I would be fine (if not happy even) if he fell to our pick in the first in the next draft and he is the guy to replace Weigman.

That would give us a hella nice, and young, OL.
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No way.

You can get a perrenial pro bowl quality center in the second round or very late first (at the earliest)
Really? On a consistent basis?

I disagree.

Rarely does Pre-Draft value equal Post-Draft value. If you can get a perennial Pro Bowler with any first round draft pick, whether it's first, second, third, or 15th, you do it.

In 1993, do you think that the Cardinals would have rather had Will Shields #3 overall or Garrison Hearst?
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Old 12-10-2010, 11:05 PM   #7
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Really? On a consistent basis?

I disagree.

Rarely does Pre-Draft value equal Post-Draft value. If you can get a perennial Pro Bowler with any first round draft pick, whether it's first, second, third, or 15th, you do it.

In 1993, do you think that the Cardinals would have rather had Will Shields #3 overall or Garrison Hearst?
There are a slew of players I would rather have over him at 3... from this last draft, especially.

I value OL more than most on this board, but taking a center at 3 is foolish no matter the quality of the player.

Like I said, I would have little issue with us taking one with our next pick if one that is worth that pick is there. I would like to hear what some say about his brother in the upcoming draft...if he is there and they feel he can play center at a similar level to his brother, it would be a damn good pick IMO

Nick Mangold and Alex Mack is about where ELITE centers go, Pittsburgh reached a tad but #18 isnt that bad...that may be the new line for where you can draft an elite one. Also, take into account that they had little needs and he was a perfect fit for what they want fro the position.

#3 overall would be foolish.

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Let me ask you this...would you rather have a 10 year probowl center, or a guy that can make three or four career probowls as a pass rusher?
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So in all seriousness, what good does it do to Re-draft?

I mean seriously? Besides all the peter pounding from everyone, does it acutally make your dick bigger?

What a waste of bandwidth and disk space on the server...
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Old 12-10-2010, 11:17 PM   #10
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Haven't we been berated enough about only LT top twenty or so. Def not top five. Don't make me search tomorrow
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This "Re-Draft" had Dez Bryant at five and Berry to Seattle at #12.

Where does this talk of Thomas or Allen even enter the equation? Where are you coming from, Jason? I don't get it.
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I didn't see asecond round was wondering if I missed it. You said bryant and allen over berry mccluster
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This "Re-Draft" had Dez Bryant at five and Berry to Seattle at #12.

Where does this talk of Thomas or Allen even enter the equation? Where are you coming from, Jason? I don't get it.
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Dane are you all right today? I've been drinking but thought the conversation was pretty easy to follow.
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