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Old 08-02-2011, 07:15 PM   #1
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Since I am the one who reported it here first, you should re-read what was posted. I never guaranteed a signing. Just reported it was merely a conversation. As you can now see, the money that Zach made was just too rich for Scott's tastes.



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Old 08-02-2011, 04:47 PM   #2
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Old 08-02-2011, 05:21 PM   #3
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Damn, between Denver's ****ups and Oakland shooting itself in the foot again, I'm liking our chances this year.
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Old 08-02-2011, 06:56 PM   #4
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I'm glad Miller left Oakland (hate that guy). It's odd that Seattle would sign him, though, as they have a good young TE in Carlson.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:11 PM   #5
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I'm glad Miller left Oakland (hate that guy). It's odd that Seattle would sign him, though, as they have a good young TE in Carlson.
They wanted him bad enough to pay him $7 mil per year - with $17 mil guaranteed. Maybe they want to trade Carlson? Oakland is now considering a move for Kevin Boss, but can't give him anything near what Miller just got. Dude has had almost as many concussions as Miller, hands not as good as miller, but is a helluva blocker. Downgrade:

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Old 08-03-2011, 09:04 PM   #6
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I'm glad Miller left Oakland (hate that guy). It's odd that Seattle would sign him, though, as they have a good young TE in Carlson.
some people believe 2 tightends is a good thing ... like payton manning.

of course Chiefs fans hate it, but then again they are smarter about NFL offense than Manning.
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:19 AM   #7
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some people believe 2 tightends is a good thing ... like payton manning.

of course Chiefs fans hate it, but then again they are smarter about NFL offense than Manning.
Sorry, where are those posts that discuss how Chiefs fans hate 2 TE sets?
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Old 08-06-2011, 01:46 PM   #8
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some people believe 2 tightends is a good thing ... like payton manning.

of course Chiefs fans hate it, but then again they are smarter about NFL offense than Manning.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:19 PM   #9
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AZ would have been a great fit for Miller but i imagine they never really seriously considered it with the money they will spend on a Fitz contract.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:20 PM   #10
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This is a mfken joke ...I have been a raiders fan since 1970 ,right now ..AL YOU HAVE PROVEN THAT YOU ARE A JOKE AND ARE MAKING OUR TEAM IN YOUR OLD IMAGE !!!MYBE THE MEDIA HAS BEEN RIGHT ABOUT YOU ALL ALONG ...WELL MY BLINDERS ARE OFF NOW !!!
it is bad enough that we lost our best defensive player ...
now we loose Miller too!!!!! TO THE SEAHAWKS ....REALLY !!!! THAT IS BAD WHEN MILLER OPENLY WANTED TO RETURN AND YOU LET HIM GO TO THE SEAHAWKS !!!
Every time we start to go somewhere and actually look like a team you do something really really stupid !!!
I am not gonna renew my season tickets ...nor are anyone of my friends !!
I hope you enjoy a stadium with only 10000 people to watch ..you have destroyed this team and I will not ,can not and won't support a team that you are destroying !!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!! TIME TO RISE UP AND BOYCOTT !!! I will not get my season tickets nor will I spend a single dollar on the raiders until you get your head out of your ass ....
I LOVE THIS TEAM AND YOU HAVE DESTROYED IT
... Now it's time for you to see that your fans are not happy ...this IS our TEAM as much as yours !!
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:24 PM   #11
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This is a mfken joke ...I have been a raiders fan since 1970 ,right now ..AL YOU HAVE PROVEN THAT YOU ARE A JOKE AND ARE MAKING OUR TEAM IN YOUR OLD IMAGE !!!MYBE THE MEDIA HAS BEEN RIGHT ABOUT YOU ALL ALONG ...WELL MY BLINDERS ARE OFF NOW !!!
it is bad enough that we lost our best defensive player ...
now we loose Miller too!!!!! TO THE SEAHAWKS ....REALLY !!!! THAT IS BAD WHEN MILLER OPENLY WANTED TO RETURN AND YOU LET HIM GO TO THE SEAHAWKS !!!
Every time we start to go somewhere and actually look like a team you do something really really stupid !!!
I am not gonna renew my season tickets ...nor are anyone of my friends !!
I hope you enjoy a stadium with only 10000 people to watch ..you have destroyed this team and I will not ,can not and won't support a team that you are destroying !!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!! TIME TO RISE UP AND BOYCOTT !!! I will not get my season tickets nor will I spend a single dollar on the raiders until you get your head out of your ass ....
I LOVE THIS TEAM AND YOU HAVE DESTROYED IT ... Now it's time for you to see that your fans are not happy ...this IS our TEAM as much as yours !!
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:23 PM   #12
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Based on a phone interview I had with Zach Miller, it sounds like the Raiders coaching staff and teammates were reaching out in a way owner Al Davis did not.

Bottom line is the Raiders took care of the unrestricted free agents Davis thought most important and showed them the (guaranteed) money _ Kamerion Wimbley ($29 million), Richard Seymour ($22.5 million) and Stanford Routt ($20 million). Miller got $17 millon guaranteed from Seattle, so it’s safe to assume Oakland was offering less.

Some of Miller’s thoughts:

–“Coach (Tom) Cable gave me a call Saturday morning and saw I wasn’t signed yet, kind of feeling the Raiders would have done it by then. He said, `We want you here and I’m going to make a push to get you here.’

“I took a visit, and my wife and I just loved it. I’m still kind of blown away about what an an amazing place it is and we feel it’s the best fit.”

– “Football’s a business and I know that first-hand. When I was going into the last year of my rookie deal I was hoping to get extended and get a long term contract and it didn’t happen. Then the season ended and was expecting a deal and it didn’t happen, either.

“Throughout the process I was expecting it and it just never happened. I thought I’d get an extension and it never materialized.”

In the end, it didn’t matter how many times Hue Jackson, tight ends coach Adam Henry or teammates called to tell Miller how much he was wanted. Davis simply was not going to pay a tight end the same kind of money he was for a pass rusher, an established potential Hall of Fame defensive tackle and a speedy cornerback.

And Miller and the two best hands in the organization are now in Seattle.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:38 PM   #13
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Wonderful news. At lunch today my raider fan buddy was laughing at me saying Miller was just in Seattle enjoying a free meal.

Can't wait for tomorrow.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:39 PM   #14
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Great news. Guy was a good player; good to see him in the NFC.
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Old 08-02-2011, 08:04 PM   #15
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The Raiders are building a bully? With what? That teams is ****ing garbage. Cable schemed well against teams he saw twice a year. He's gone now. They are about to get our red and yellow feet broke off in their ass.
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