This one ain't on Cassel

[BossChief]

Matt Cassel brought it upon himself.

If we had a quarterback that stayed poised under pressure (well, we do but he isnt allowed to play because of checkdowns contract and connection to Piolis ego) and found the open man, the opposing defense would be forced to drop everybody back into coverage to compensate or at least bring less on the blitz...instead defenses know that if they blitz Cassel he stops making reads and panics.

Until Cassel learns to beat the blitz, the blitz will continue to tear his game apart at the seams.

****, we have a huge size advantage over almost any corner in the league...how about when the opposing team blitzes, just throw it up to Bowe or Baldwin because they will be in single coverage. They dont even have to be open...that would put them in a situation where they can make the catch and break one tackle before taking off for 6.

Hot read or single coverage.

Its not that hard, playa.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Matt Cassel brought it upon himself.

If we had a quarterback that stayed poised under pressure (well, we do but he isnt allowed to play because of checkdowns contract and connection to Piolis ego) and found the open man, the opposing defense would be forced to drop everybody back into coverage to compensate or at least bring less on the blitz...instead defenses know that if they blitz Cassel he stops making reads and panics.

Until Cassel learns to beat the blitz, the blitz will continue to tear his game apart at the seams.

****, we have a huge size advantage over almost any corner in the league...how about when the opposing team blitzes, just throw it up to Bowe or Baldwin because they will be in single coverage. They dont even have to be open...that would put them in a situation where they can make the catch and break one tackle before taking off for 6.

Hot read or single coverage.

Its not that hard, playa.

What's a "hot read"?

/Matt Cassel

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Matt Cassel brought it upon himself.

If we had a quarterback that stayed poised under pressure (well, we do but he isnt allowed to play because of checkdowns contract and connection to Piolis ego) and found the open man, the opposing defense would be forced to drop everybody back into coverage to compensate or at least bring less on the blitz...instead defenses know that if they blitz Cassel he stops making reads and panics.

Until Cassel learns to beat the blitz, the blitz will continue to tear his game apart at the seams.

****, we have a huge size advantage over almost any corner in the league...how about when the opposing team blitzes, just throw it up to Bowe or Baldwin because they will be in single coverage. They dont even have to be open...that would put them in a situation where they can make the catch and break one tackle before taking off for 6.

Hot read or single coverage.

Its not that hard, playa.

So you want Cassel to chuck it up 10 yards down the field?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

So you want Cassel to chuck it up 10 yards down the field?

haha something like that. Tht may a little bit "out there" for him though.

If we are in 3 wide (like we were a lot yesterday) annd the opposing team brings 6 or 7 on the blitz...either one of your wideouts is totally uncovered or everyone is in single coverage.

To good quarterbacks, that makes their mouth water...especially if they have a receiving core like ours.

To answer your question...yes, absolutely.

If he is under pressure I would be totally fine if he did what Jimmy Clausen did while under pressure...chuck it up to Baldwin or Bowe (or in Jimmys case, Floyd while at ND)

Baldwin has a 4 inch and 30 pound size advantage over almost any corner in the league. In single coverage, he is damn close to undefendable.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'll try to find it, but I remember seeing something that said Cassel's QBR against the blitz was something like 35.

That's brutal.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'll try to find it, but I remember seeing something that said Cassel's QBR against the blitz was something like 35.

That's brutal.

All during camp the last few years they have tried a ****ton of activities to try and get him used to making decisions while under pressure.

Throwing medicine balls and beach balls at him while he goes through reads in practice are a couple things that immediately come to mind.

I know that Zorn is one of the best outside the box thinkers and is a damn good problem solver that has mentioned many times stuff they have tried to break him of the habit...to no avail.

Its not gonna change. Period.

While at NE, it was around his 6th or 7th game as starter and Chris Collinsworth made a big deal about it during a game. Saying that Bill Billichick talked to him personally about the specific problem (stop looking downfield as soon as a hint of pressure presents itself) and how (at the time) they were advising him to take sacks and keep going through progressions.

Here we are 4 years later and the guy still has the exact same problem.

Lets face it, no matter what anybody tries to do for this guy, he is unable to fix some of these problems and that is why he should have stayed a backup and that by this time next year, he will likely be one again.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'll try to find it, but I remember seeing something that said Cassel's QBR against the blitz was something like 35.

That's brutal.

PFF says:

No pressure - 88.0
Under pressure - 39.9

No blitz - 85.0
Blitzed - 58.9

Completion percentage drops from:

66 to 47
66 to 51

[Okie_Apparition]

I like the fact people get all worked up because Cassel gets worked up. He & Rivers need to learn to keep their emotions in check. He didn't learn behind Brady what he should have. He's the Katie Horner of QBs

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

I like the fact people get all worked up because Cassel gets worked up. He & Rivers need to learn to keep their emotions in check. He didn't learn behind Brady what he should have. He's the Katie Horner of QBs

I won't defend Cassel on much, but I will on this one. Get the damn play in on time. He's pissed because it happens all the time and it puts him in a shitty position each time.

[MahiMike]

I typically don't bash Cassel and I don't think he deserves too much today. I do know that lotsa QBs can't handle the pressure of constantly getting hit (Gabbert is already being labeled as having issues here in Jax). Cassel was under pressure from the beginning and that was both the OL's fault as well as the OC.

That being said, I saw a few times where he scrambled very well, had bought plenty of time and then just rushed it. I also was ticked at how he never looks for Baldwin unless they're near the goal.

I will say that Cassel's a tough dude and admire how he gets back up after the big hits.

[TheSourceX1]

Cassel had a few shitty throws ... missed DBowe at the goal line ... receivers dropped a few but the coaches are the ones that let everyone down. O & D schemes are shit ... Chiefs were out-coached plain and simple.

The O-line played some horrible ball ... team loss though ... blame it on everyone.

[tredadda]

Bottom line is this, Cassel has 9 TDs this season. 9!!!!!!! In 8 freaking games and 4 of them came in one game against Indy! So outside of that one good game against the worst pass defense and worst team in football he has 5 TD's and 9 Int's in 7 games with arguably the best WR corps we have ever had and plenty of protection (outside of yesterday). When will people realize he is not the answer? I am just hoping the front office notices this and moves on from him in the offseason. I like his fire and drive and he has all the intangibles you look for in a franchise QB, sadly though he lacks one critical thing a franchise QB needs, and that is talent.

[kcxiv]

THey blitzed us all day and we had absolutely no counter for it at all. no slants, no anything. IT was just terrible, At one point i was like, come on ****ing hot route, something.

As much as the whole team played like shit, a QB that is good would have kept this team in the game. At least score more then 3 ****ing points.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

THey blitzed us all day and we had absolutely no counter for it at all. no slants, no anything. IT was just terrible, At one point i was like, come on ****ing hot route, something.

As much as the whole team played like shit, a QB that is good would have kept this team in the game. At least score more then 3 ****ing points.

Well, I started a thread about this. I blame the coaches. Yes, Cassel bears some blame but the OC can see WTF is going on and call some 3-step drops, slants, skinny posts, bootlegs...SOMETHING!!!

Instead we just kept doing the same shit over and over.

[Marcellus]

Even if for the sake of argument we all agree this one wasn't on Cassel........

So what. Its not like it makes him good enough to be the guy we need.