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Old 12-18-2011, 05:07 PM   #1
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It shoud never happen. Haley looks like such a fool today. He is lucky that Cassel got injured.

Cassel would have had similar success and then everyone would know it was all Haley.

But, at least now, some can try to argue that it was Cassel.

And, that isn't me thinking Cassel is great... it is me just realizing that Haley is awful.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:28 PM   #2
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bullshit ... playcalling was nothing like it has been

did we run a DMC draw at all?

our redzone playcalling sucked but other than that Muir > Haley
Yes, we did run a DMC draw, twice.

The fact that Orton can actually play the QB position had the effect of taking that play out the game as much as it did.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:29 PM   #3
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Pioli got what he ****ing wanted.

Some people are buying into him making Haley the scapegoat.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:33 PM   #4
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Pioli got what he ****ing wanted.

Some people are buying into him making Haley the scapegoat.
Haley was a big part of the problem with this team. This team has gotten blown out 5 games this season and that is a direct reflection of the head coach.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:34 PM   #5
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Haley was a big part of the problem with this team. This team has gotten blown out 5 games this season and that is a direct reflection of the head coach.
Or it could be due to execution.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:34 PM   #6
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Haley was a big part of the problem with this team. This team has gotten blown out 5 games this season and that is a direct reflection of the head coach.
He was being asked to prepare a team that had no real hope.

I'm fine with Haley being fired but if Cassel doesn't go with him, we've accomplished nothing.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:33 PM   #7
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Yes, we did run a DMC draw, twice.

The fact that Orton can actually play the QB position had the effect of taking that play out the game as much as it did.
I can't believe we're even arguing this.

Our first punt was with 4 minutes LEFT IN THE FIRST HALF.

We didn't NEED to run the delay draw because we weren't ever in 3rd and long.

The difference today was abundantly clear for anybody that wanted to see it.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:37 PM   #8
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bullshit ... playcalling was nothing like it has been

did we run a DMC draw at all?

our redzone playcalling sucked but other than that Muir > Haley
We did run one DMC draw play. It was a stretch draw, and it got blown up in the backfield, as have most of our stretch draws, most of the year.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:36 PM   #9
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:47 PM   #10
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Orton is still a backup.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:48 PM   #11
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Orton is still a backup.
Exactly.

And by that measure, Cassel isn't even that...
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:50 PM   #12
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People act like Orton threw 5 TDs today.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:56 PM   #13
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People act like Orton threw 5 TDs today.
Really? Is that what you REALLY think?
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:57 PM   #14
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People act like Orton threw 5 TDs today.
Hardly. People are acting like they saw good QB play out of a Chiefs team the first time in forever.
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Old 12-18-2011, 05:36 PM   #15
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Hardly. People are acting like they saw good QB play out of a Chiefs team the first time in forever.
Exactly, i havent seen so many people creating straw man arguments in a long time.

No one is looking at Orton as The Guy, but after all we've been through... he'll do for now.
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