In big win, Chiefs find a leader in Romeo Crennel

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

My god, you act like 65 year olds need to be put to sleep... 65 is NOTHING in terms of age these days. If Romeo's health really is an issue now then I can see a valid point there. I'm not privy to that information so I won't speculate.

I'd love to see us go with a youngish college coach but I am not going to pretend I KNOW that Romeo is a bad choice when NO ONE knows that...

GoChiefs is welcome to his opinion... but that's all it is...and offering it up as FACT is just ****ing annoying... and generally a sign of insecurity and immaturity. Par for the course I guess.

Thanks for ventriloquizing me. There are exceptions to every rule, but there is a reason why most NFL coaches are done by their early 60s. It's an incredibly stressful job, and, sorry to disappoint, but as people age longer hours, little sleep, and high stress environments are more difficult to cope with. It's a natural part of the aging process. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with it, but acting like aging doesn't take a toll on coaches is no different than thinking it doesn't take a toll on athletes, it just manifests itself through a different mechanism.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Thanks for ventriloquizing me. There are exceptions to every rule, but there is a reason why most NFL coaches are done by their early 60s. It's an incredibly stressful job, and, sorry to disappoint, but as people age longer hours, little sleep, and high stress environments are more difficult to cope with. It's a natural part of the aging process. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with it, but acting like aging doesn't take a toll on coaches is no different than thinking it doesn't take a toll on athletes, it just manifests itself through a different mechanism.

I agree with your stance on people of age. But let's not act like NFL head coaches are out there digging ditches for 20 hours a day. They're sitting in a $10,000 chair watching film and meeting with assistants. They have an entire staff at their disposal and delegate. I agree, it is a moderate factor in the hiring process that should be discussed and a contingency plan drawn up in advance should they opt to hire RC. But it's NOT the overwhelming reason to outright dismiss his candidacy as Clay would have us believe.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Phobia

I agree with your stance on people of age. But let's not act like NFL head coaches are out there digging ditches for 20 hours a day. They're sitting in a $10,000 chair watching film and meeting with assistants. They have an entire staff at their disposal and delegate. I agree, it is a moderate factor in the hiring process that should be discussed and a contingency plan drawn up in advance should they opt to hire RC. But it's NOT the overwhelming reason to outright dismiss his candidacy as Clay would have us believe.

ok, yeah what Phil said.. I like his post better, I'm going with this one...

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Thanks for ventriloquizing me. There are exceptions to every rule, but there is a reason why most NFL coaches are done by their early 60s. It's an incredibly stressful job, and, sorry to disappoint, but as people age longer hours, little sleep, and high stress environments are more difficult to cope with. It's a natural part of the aging process. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with it, but acting like aging doesn't take a toll on coaches is no different than thinking it doesn't take a toll on athletes, it just manifests itself through a different mechanism.

I agree that age could be a factor but I also know there is a WIDE degree of variance between how individuals age and handle stress, long hours etc... If he were 70 I would agree with you but at 64 I just don't put his age at or even NEAR the top of my list of concerns.

And GoChiefs argument that he can't WIN because of his age is just moronic.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Phobia

I agree with your stance on people of age. But let's not act like NFL head coaches are out there digging ditches for 20 hours a day. They're sitting in a $10,000 chair watching film and meeting with assistants. They have an entire staff at their disposal and delegate. I agree, it is a moderate factor in the hiring process that should be discussed and a contingency plan drawn up in advance should they opt to hire RC. But it's NOT the overwhelming reason to outright dismiss his candidacy as Clay would have us believe.

Originally Posted by AustinChief

I agree that age could be a factor but I also know there is a WIDE degree of variance between how individuals age and handle stress, long hours etc... If he were 70 I would agree with you but at 64 I just don't put his age at or even NEAR the top of my list of concerns.

And GoChiefs argument that he can't WIN because of his age is just moronic.

I agree with both of these. It's a complex factor that has to be judged on an individual basis, but given what we do know about aging in general, at the very least, it should be taken into consideration.

With regard to the strain of the work, no it's by no means manual labor, but there is a great deal of stress as a function of the job, and much of that is internal, fear of failure and overlooking the smallest detail. That's why we hear so many stories of coaches working 18+ hour days, and also why there are so many high profile stories of coaches with family problems, Belichick, Reid, Dungy, et. al.

[Titty Meat]

Rob Chudzinski would be the best choice IMO and you would get to keep Romeo.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Rob Chudzinski would be the best choice IMO and you would get to keep Romeo.

The big concern I have Chuzinski is he has only coached in the playoffs twice and both times as a tight ends coach. His teams haven't been very successful.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The big concern I have Chuzinski is he has only coached in the playoffs twice and both times as a tight ends coach. His teams haven't been very successful.

He did a good job at Miami as the OC and coached Franks, Shockey, and Winslow made them pretty good players. Antonio Gates as well. He did a good job in Cleveland as the OC, I believe he helped coordinate San Diegos passing game, and has helped turn around the Panthers offense with a rookie QB. I can't think of a more deserving candidate to be honest.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

He did a good job at Miami as the OC and coached Franks, Shockey, and Winslow made them pretty good players. Antonio Gates as well. He did a good job in Cleveland as the OC, I believe he helped coordinate San Diegos passing game, and has helped turn around the Panthers offense with a rookie QB. I can't think of a more deserving candidate to be honest.

A whole lot of truth in this post.

If we were going the inexperienced coordinator route, he'd be my guy.

I don't think we are though.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

A whole lot of truth in this post.

If we were going the inexperienced coordinator route, he'd be my guy.

I don't think we are though.

I don't think so either. If I had to guess I'd say we're keeping Crennel though his comments the other day about how he'd have to be able to make some of the decisions were interesting.

[ChiefsCountry]

Romeo would be the choice if you are bringing a young guy to groom under him ala Pepper Johnson. Jeff Fisher would just suck balls. If you want to build a super staff, then Kirk Ferentz would be the choice.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Romeo would be the choice if you are bringing a young guy to groom under him ala Pepper Johnson. Jeff Fisher would just suck balls. If you want to build a super staff, then Kirk Ferentz would be the choice.

Kirk Ferentz makes Gary Pinkel looks like he has an imagination when it comes to play calling. No thanks.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Kirk Ferentz makes Gary Pinkel looks like he has an imagination when it comes to play calling. No thanks.

Did you read the part about "super staff." Ferentz is a CEO type coach and dicates to his coordinators. If you build a super staff, it would probably work for him in the NFL.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Did you read the part about "super staff." Ferentz is a CEO type coach and dicates to his coordinators. If you build a super staff, it would probably work for him in the NFL.

We had a super staff last year it didn't work. I just don't see how Ferentz would come to the NFL and answer to someone else when the guy is a celeb in Iowa.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

We had a super staff last year it didn't work. I just don't see how Ferentz would come to the NFL and answer to someone else when the guy is a celeb in Iowa.

It didn't work because Haley and Weis were ego maniacs. Ferentz is more along the lines of Vermeil type. He would dictate to the staff. I think he would have worked great with last year's staff for sure.