Poop Tebow: The Final Numbers - Page 10

**RNR** · 01-03-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

So, you make fun of these guys throwing for 5K because it's so easy, but the QB you perform fellatio on strggles to complete 6 passes a game

I have to agree that that post does little to defend Gods 2nd begotten son.

Okie_Apparition · 01-02-2012, 10:59 PM

I have a feeling Tebow is going to be a sad figure
THe media built him & they will destroy the kid

Simplicity · 01-02-2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

I have a feeling Tebow is going to be a sad figure
THe media built him & they will destroy the kid

He didn't help his case either...

tooge · 01-03-2012, 09:16 AM

I loved the look on Elways face at the end of the game. "Dammit, I'm in a no win situation. Keep this loser as qb to make fans happy, and face years of losing, or keep him, make fans happy for another year and then face years of losing. *%&(&%$(&%!!!!!!"

scho63 · 01-03-2012, 10:35 AM

Tim Te-blow

**ChiefGator** · 01-03-2012, 11:43 AM

Your yards per game is wrong, since you divided by the full 16 games. He really only played 11.5 games.

Not that it changes much else, but it should be closer to 145-150 yards/game.

Okie_Apparition · 01-03-2012, 12:17 PM

Tebow is getting a rest for now, they've got the Jets to rip apart
That circus is better for the ratings

Okie_Apparition · 01-03-2012, 12:31 PM

Broncos have a fasination with billboards
KC billboards, Denver billboards, Tebow..all 1dimensionial

Mile High Mania · 01-03-2012, 01:27 PM

Decker has only been targeted 8 times in the last 3 games... only twice vs NE and only twice vs KC. That will not cut it.

Decker had 17 targets in the previous 3 games and and 13 in the 3 prior to that stretch.

In comparison, Thomas has 40 targets in the last 4 games... 21 receptions.

Matt Willis, Eddie Royal, Daniel Fells, McGahee and Lance Ball ... they're getting little action in the targets per game. And, I realize it's going to be low when you only throw on average 20-25 times per game. But, if they mix it up better and have plays (misdirection, bootlegs, play action) that can open up those 5-15 yard passes... they could likely see greater production and keep the defenses honest.

I just don't think that those guys (underlined above) are the best weapons to have and those are the areas to fix in the off-season.

**Bowser** · 01-03-2012, 01:34 PM

Basically Garcia is telling us that he doesn't need us to tell him just how bad Tebow is, because he already knows full well how bad Tebow is.

SO GB, which QB do you think the Broncos will take with their first pick in April?

Garcia Bronco · 01-03-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Basically Garcia is telling us that he doesn't need us to tell him just how bad Tebow is, because he already knows full well how bad Tebow is.

SO GB, which QB do you think the Broncos will take with their first pick in April?

I do know more about Teebs, because I watch him play over and over. I also go to traning camp regularly enough to know how he practices. He did not look good this year in training camp. Which is why I supported Orton as a starter, but after 4 games, it was clear to me that Orton is a jinx. There is no other way to explain it.

I think we'll draft BPA all through the draft. And make no mistake, we'll bring in a Vet. We are too far back in the draft to use a pick on a QB as rookie. It doesn't get us anywhere if Tebow goes down with an injury except cause controversy.

**HemiEd** · 01-03-2012, 01:41 PM

He is a winner, just give him a few more years horseface.

tooge · 01-03-2012, 02:00 PM

Ok, lets look at the real facts, then look at the opinions.
Facts:
1. Tim Tebow was the QB when the broncos went 7-4 this season.
2. The broncos were incredibly fortunate to win three of those four games (think onside kicks and chicago not running out of bounds, or they are 4-7 in that time.
3. The broncos have a solid defense
4. During the 7-4 stretch, the broncos played only 2 teams that ended up as playoff teams. They lost both.

Opinions
1. Tim Teabow was a motivating factor and led the team to those wins
2. Kyle Orton was terrible and Tebow is better
3. Tim Tebow can develop into a starting caliber NFL QB
4. Tim Tebow is a winner at this level

Putting it all together, lets be real. The guy came onto the scene with a totally unconventional offensive system installed after week 6 when it became obviouse to John Fox, that he doesn't have the delivery, accuracy, or field vision to run a typical NFL passing offense. That unconventional system caught the first three or four teams by surprise and took a few weeks to teach them the discipline needed to defend it. During that time, the broncos caught some very uncanny breaks such as Marion Barber failing to run out of bounds, getting an onside kick against an 0-6 Miami team, a brand new QB in Oakland that hadn't played but a few quarters in a year, etc. Finally, the schedule toughened a bit (though not much), the defenses figured out how to stop a college read option offense, and the breaks stopped (other than the chiefs muffed punt). Guess what? The broncos lose 3 in a row. Tebow's numbers are some of the worst in NFL history. That isn't any coincidence. The guys a gamer without NFL talent. Tyler Thigpen with a lesser accuracy. Had John Fox not scrapped the offense to save some sort of offensive face, Tebows numbers would likely be even worse.
This is a case of a few random events coming together in a time sequence that is purely coincidental, and leading to a perception of an outcome that simply isn't reality.
In all likelyhood, Elway knows this and will plan to move on in the offseason. If not, the broncos are putting thier rebuilding process on hold for another two years or so while the young guys they have begin to reach and or pass thier prime. I'm not buying in at all. It is delusional to think this guy can get the broncos to the playoffs again. They got there DESPITE his play, not because of it. Heck, this is just my opionion, but I think they started figuring Foxs defensive scheme out about week 4 or 5. I think if they had kept Orton, they'd be sitting at 10-6 and might have a first round bye. As a chiefs fan, I'm VERY happy they are drinkin the Tebow koolaid.

**HemiEd** · 01-03-2012, 02:21 PM

Tebow FTMFW! Sign him to an extension, now please! How great would that be, the same day we find out the Norv is staying in San Diego?

ClevelandBronco · 01-03-2012, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Tebow FTMFW! Sign him to an extension, now please! How great would that be, the same day we find out the Norv is staying in San Diego?

Now if Hunt shits and/or gets off the pot (and shits anyway) and names Crennel HC, we'll all get what we want.

01-02-2012, 10:59 PM	#2
Okie_Apparition Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: floatin cobwebs n the sky Casino cash: $10004900	I have a feeling Tebow is going to be a sad figure THe media built him & they will destroy the kid
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01-03-2012, 09:16 AM	#4
tooge MVP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Liberty, MO Casino cash: $584112	I loved the look on Elways face at the end of the game. "Dammit, I'm in a no win situation. Keep this loser as qb to make fans happy, and face years of losing, or keep him, make fans happy for another year and then face years of losing. *%&(&%$(&%!!!!!!"
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01-03-2012, 10:35 AM	#5
scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $-980000	Tim Te-blow
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01-03-2012, 11:43 AM	#6
ChiefGator Can these boys not play? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Northcentral Florida Casino cash: $6452956	Your yards per game is wrong, since you divided by the full 16 games. He really only played 11.5 games. Not that it changes much else, but it should be closer to 145-150 yards/game. __________________ - Mark
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01-03-2012, 12:17 PM	#7
Okie_Apparition Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: floatin cobwebs n the sky Casino cash: $10004900	Tebow is getting a rest for now, they've got the Jets to rip apart That circus is better for the ratings
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01-03-2012, 12:31 PM	#8
Okie_Apparition Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: floatin cobwebs n the sky Casino cash: $10004900	Broncos have a fasination with billboards KC billboards, Denver billboards, Tebow..all 1dimensionial
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01-03-2012, 01:27 PM	#9
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $877229	Decker has only been targeted 8 times in the last 3 games... only twice vs NE and only twice vs KC. That will not cut it. Decker had 17 targets in the previous 3 games and and 13 in the 3 prior to that stretch. In comparison, Thomas has 40 targets in the last 4 games... 21 receptions. Matt Willis, Eddie Royal, Daniel Fells, McGahee and Lance Ball ... they're getting little action in the targets per game. And, I realize it's going to be low when you only throw on average 20-25 times per game. But, if they mix it up better and have plays (misdirection, bootlegs, play action) that can open up those 5-15 yard passes... they could likely see greater production and keep the defenses honest. I just don't think that those guys (underlined above) are the best weapons to have and those are the areas to fix in the off-season. __________________
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01-03-2012, 01:34 PM	#10
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $-248384	Basically Garcia is telling us that he doesn't need us to tell him just how bad Tebow is, because he already knows full well how bad Tebow is. SO GB, which QB do you think the Broncos will take with their first pick in April?
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01-03-2012, 01:41 PM	#12
HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $-549436	He is a winner, just give him a few more years horseface.
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01-03-2012, 02:00 PM	#13
tooge MVP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Liberty, MO Casino cash: $584112	Ok, lets look at the real facts, then look at the opinions. Facts: 1. Tim Tebow was the QB when the broncos went 7-4 this season. 2. The broncos were incredibly fortunate to win three of those four games (think onside kicks and chicago not running out of bounds, or they are 4-7 in that time. 3. The broncos have a solid defense 4. During the 7-4 stretch, the broncos played only 2 teams that ended up as playoff teams. They lost both. Opinions 1. Tim Teabow was a motivating factor and led the team to those wins 2. Kyle Orton was terrible and Tebow is better 3. Tim Tebow can develop into a starting caliber NFL QB 4. Tim Tebow is a winner at this level Putting it all together, lets be real. The guy came onto the scene with a totally unconventional offensive system installed after week 6 when it became obviouse to John Fox, that he doesn't have the delivery, accuracy, or field vision to run a typical NFL passing offense. That unconventional system caught the first three or four teams by surprise and took a few weeks to teach them the discipline needed to defend it. During that time, the broncos caught some very uncanny breaks such as Marion Barber failing to run out of bounds, getting an onside kick against an 0-6 Miami team, a brand new QB in Oakland that hadn't played but a few quarters in a year, etc. Finally, the schedule toughened a bit (though not much), the defenses figured out how to stop a college read option offense, and the breaks stopped (other than the chiefs muffed punt). Guess what? The broncos lose 3 in a row. Tebow's numbers are some of the worst in NFL history. That isn't any coincidence. The guys a gamer without NFL talent. Tyler Thigpen with a lesser accuracy. Had John Fox not scrapped the offense to save some sort of offensive face, Tebows numbers would likely be even worse. This is a case of a few random events coming together in a time sequence that is purely coincidental, and leading to a perception of an outcome that simply isn't reality. In all likelyhood, Elway knows this and will plan to move on in the offseason. If not, the broncos are putting thier rebuilding process on hold for another two years or so while the young guys they have begin to reach and or pass thier prime. I'm not buying in at all. It is delusional to think this guy can get the broncos to the playoffs again. They got there DESPITE his play, not because of it. Heck, this is just my opionion, but I think they started figuring Foxs defensive scheme out about week 4 or 5. I think if they had kept Orton, they'd be sitting at 10-6 and might have a first round bye. As a chiefs fan, I'm VERY happy they are drinkin the Tebow koolaid.
Posts: 17,219

01-03-2012, 02:21 PM	#14
HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $-549436	Tebow FTMFW! Sign him to an extension, now please! How great would that be, the same day we find out the Norv is staying in San Diego?
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