Seriously,if the Chiefs...

[Nzoner]

Originally Posted by Buck

You'll come around. It's the name on the front of the jersey, not the back, that you love.

I'll just believe it's not gonna happen and if it does it's not gonna happen.

[-King-]

This thread could get interesting in a week or two...

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Nzoner

somehow someway land Peyton Manning I will be done as a fan until his tenure is over.I can't really explain it except to say my dislike for him and his family runs very deep and there is no way I could ever cheer for or back him.

Anyone else have similar feelings or would you be all for seeing him in a KC uniform?

DUMB!

[Bump]

Originally Posted by TEX

DUMB!

seriously. I bet that hate would turn to love after Manning won us a Superbowl. I don't care if Bill Romanoski or Shannon Sharpe (2 of my most hated ever) could suit up at QB and take us to the promised land, I'd be all over their jock afterwards.

[Wallcrawler]

You have to make a move. Nearly 20 years and no playoff wins, and inconsistent seasons show that the way things have been done is not going to work, and will not work.

Cassel had his shot, and he blew it harder than Peter North over Jenna Jameson's heartbreaker tattoo.

This year, it looks like there are two options for the Chiefs to improve the most vital part of the football team.

You sink this draft, and part of (if not all) of next year's draft to move up to 2 and take Griffin. Doing that likely costs players as well.

You bring in Griffin. Great. Now, without Bowe to throw to or Albert protecting him, what is he going to get done? Youre left in free agency limbo to try to address the needs to build around this kid. Result: Chiefs suck for probably 2 years and get nothing in the draft to show for it, while the Rams live like kings.

Or you bring in Manning.

Lets cut the bullshit. Obviously, Manning is going to have to pass a physical and demonstrate he has the tools to do what needs to be done before he gets signed.

We sign Manning, and we still have pretty good position in the draft to get him some help. We've got some cash to throw at some free agents that could help out further.


How would bringing in Manning for a few seasons while retaining our drafts set the team back?

The way I see it, if you go all in for RG3 you do more to potentially set the team back than you do to help it. Sacrificing 2 drafts, key players, likely getting into cap hell because of all the scrapping youre gonna have to do in free agency to get this kid some help.

Get #18 in red, ASAP.

[Sofa King]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

You have to make a move. Nearly 20 years and no playoff wins, and inconsistent seasons show that the way things have been done is not going to work, and will not work.

Cassel had his shot, and he blew it harder than Peter North over Jenna Jameson's heartbreaker tattoo.

This year, it looks like there are two options for the Chiefs to improve the most vital part of the football team.

You sink this draft, and part of (if not all) of next year's draft to move up to 2 and take Griffin. Doing that likely costs players as well.

You bring in Griffin. Great. Now, without Bowe to throw to or Albert protecting him, what is he going to get done? Youre left in free agency limbo to try to address the needs to build around this kid. Result: Chiefs suck for probably 2 years and get nothing in the draft to show for it, while the Rams live like kings.

Or you bring in Manning.

Lets cut the bullshit. Obviously, Manning is going to have to pass a physical and demonstrate he has the tools to do what needs to be done before he gets signed.

We sign Manning, and we still have pretty good position in the draft to get him some help. We've got some cash to throw at some free agents that could help out further.


How would bringing in Manning for a few seasons while retaining our drafts set the team back?

The way I see it, if you go all in for RG3 you do more to potentially set the team back than you do to help it. Sacrificing 2 drafts, key players, likely getting into cap hell because of all the scrapping youre gonna have to do in free agency to get this kid some help.

Get #18 in red, ASAP.

Wait what??? i stopped here. Who ever said anything about trading Albert? We're surely not losing him to free agency... Nobody let's starting left tackles go...


And we're not sacrificing two ****ing drafts people. We would still have a 1st rounder this year. It's not disappearing. It's going towards RGIII... We lose a 1st next year, big whoop. 1st rounders bust all the time and it doesn't set a team back 2 years. Whatever other picks we give up, 2nd's, 3rds, doesn't matter, they won't have anywhere near the affect a ****ing franchise QB has.... And just for the record, 2 drafts = 14 picks. We're not giving up 14 picks to trade up.... Stop being dramatic.

Odds are we're not trading up. Does that piss me off? No. I can see why we probably won't. Would i be pissed if we did and it cost us some very high picks? Hell no. We have to try. Would Peyton be a great addition, Hell ya he would. Orton? He's better than Matt...

We've got options.


EDIT: Personally i realize we need a QB now. By the time all you "wait until next year" crowd finally get a QB, he'll be too young to actually do anything worth a shit while our best players just keep getting older and older.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

Wait what??? i stopped here. Who ever said anything about trading Albert? We're surely not losing him to free agency... Nobody let's starting left tackles go...


And we're not sacrificing two ****ing drafts people. We would still have a 1st rounder this year. It's not disappearing. It's going towards RGIII... We lose a 1st next year, big whoop. 1st rounders bust all the time and it doesn't set a team back 2 years. Whatever other picks we give up, 2nd's, 3rds, doesn't matter, they won't have anywhere near the affect a ****ing franchise QB has.... And just for the record, 2 drafts = 14 picks. We're not giving up 14 picks to trade up.... Stop being dramatic.

Trading up from 11 to 2 is going to take 5 years worth of draft picks. We're ****ed either way.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

Wait what??? i stopped here. Who ever said anything about trading Albert? We're surely not losing him to free agency... Nobody let's starting left tackles go...

Gonna go slowly for you here.

Chiefs have the ELEVENTH pick (11).

The Chiefs would be competing with the Browns and Redskins in a battle to trade up. Draft picks alone are not going to beat out these teams, especially considering if the Chiefs do acquire what they need, they will likely not be picking very highly next season while the Browns and Redskins have a pretty good shot at having high picks again next year.

Youre now looking at what the Rams' needs are. T, WR, CB.

Its likely that Carr is history, so the ammunition the Chiefs have are their draft, their future draft, LT Branden Albert, and WR Dwayne Bowe. Thats of course contingent on the Rams even being able to afford to do a deal that would involve players due to their cap situation.

Anyone thinking that it would take less than that to jump 9 spots over teams with far better picks has their head FIRMLY planted in their anus.

[Crush]

Also, RGIII isn't Cassel. The kid is not going to need HOF talent to look competent.

[Dragonocho]

IMHO Healthy Peyton> RGIII> Stanzi >Unhealthy Peyton >Tyler Thigpen>Tyler Palko> Cassel> Tebow.

[mlyonsd]

ABC.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

ABC.

1,2,3

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by bricks

1,2,3

Anybody but Cassel.

[lewdog]

It isn't my ****ing money we would be spending on him and he surely is better than ****ing Cassel. Would be fun to watch, especially if he is healthy. I would be ok with winning now, since building for the future sure hasn't worked out for the past 40 years.

[SPATCH]

whoa.. completely missed this thread, but..

OP is not a heterosexual.