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Direckshun · 03-18-2012, 10:39 AM

While I don't agree with it, it's not totally unreasonable.

This draft's targets:

franchise QB
franchise NT
guard
OL depth across the board
passrushers depth
secondary depth
one more RB
FB

Seeing how there are no franchise QBs in this draft outside of Luck/RG3, this draft doesn't have the insane pressure riding on it previous drafts do.

Other than NT, we're pretty much looking for depth everywhere.

Previous drafts, including up to 2011, there were far more needs than there were draft picks.

This draft clearly does not need to be that way.

kcpasco · 03-18-2012, 10:40 AM

Come on man, optimism is not allowed around here.

Direckshun · 03-18-2012, 10:48 AM

1. OG David DeCastro, Stanford

Best guard prospect to come along in my young lifetime. He's assured to be a Top Three guard in the NFL, and will help the Chiefs finally find a way to neutralize massive nose tackles while keeping their athletic ZBS alive.

2. NT Alameda Ta'amu, Washington

The Chiefs finally take the nose tackle I love. Ta'amu is a massive 340 lbs and runs like it; he's somebody you play in your heavy packages and base defense, and finally gives this team somebody to rely on in the middle for the next ten years. Ta'amu has plenty of two-gapping potential and can collapse the pocket on passing plays.

3. OLB/ILB/DE/??? Shea McClellin, Boise State

McClelllin is less valued because he's a phenomenal player (though he is a very solid, classic Vrabel-type), and more because Crennel can do whatever the hell he wants with him at all times. Rush the dirt, drop back in coverage, stand up. He's a bit undersized, but he was a team captain and incredibly coachable.

4. OT Andrew Datko, Florida State

Datko is 2nd round talent that falls to the fourth because of an injury history. He's worth taking as a swing tackle behind Albert and Winston. He can play both sides, and do so very well. Zebrie Sanders, a 2nd rounder in this year's draft, had to play the right side for a while because Datko beat him out for LT.

5. FS Trenton Robinson, Michigan State

Extremely fast (4.4 speed), ballhawking safety out of the Big Ten. Four interceptions and something like eighty tackles last year.

6. RB Cyrus Gray, Texas A&M

The Chiefs need some depth behind two relatively injury prone RBs in Jamaal and Hillis. Gray is a solid 210 lb runner who does nothing spectacularly, but does everything well.

7. C Adam Gettis, Iowa

Undersized (280 lbs) but proficient in Ferenz's system, Pioli trusts him and so should we. He is a great run blocker but will need a couple seasons behind Hudson to gain strength and size.

Tell me this isn't a team that can make noise in January.

QB: Cassel, Quinn, Stanzi
RB: Hillis, Charles, McCluster, Gray
FB: Bannon

WR: Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, Cotchery, Copper
TE: Moeaki, Boss, Maneri

LT: Albert, Datko
LG: DeCastro, Harris
C: Hudson, Gettis
RG: Asamoah, Harris
RT: Winston, Datko

DE: Dorsey, Bailey
NT: Ta'amu, Gordon, Powe
DE: Jackson, Gordon

OLB: Hali, Sheffield
ILB: Belcher, Siler
ILB: Johnson, Siler
OLB: Houston, McClellin

CB: Flowers, Routt, Arenas, Brown, Daniels
S: Berry, Lewis, McGraw, Robinson

K: Succop
P: Colquitt
LS: Gafford
KR: Arenas, McCluster
PR: Arenas, McCluster

**ChiefGator** · 03-18-2012, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

1. OG David DeCastro, Stanford

Best guard prospect to come along in my young lifetime. He's assured to be a Top Three guard in the NFL, and will help the Chiefs finally find a way to neutralize massive nose tackles while keeping their athletic ZBS alive.

2. NT Alameda Ta'amu, Washington

The Chiefs finally take the nose tackle I love. Ta'amu is a massive 340 lbs and runs like it; he's somebody you play in your heavy packages and base defense, and finally gives this team somebody to rely on in the middle for the next ten years. Ta'amu has plenty of two-gapping potential and can collapse the pocket on passing plays.

I could live with that as the first two rounds. I think most the people screaming that you don't take a guard in the 1st would be quieted by the 2nd round selection.

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-18-2012, 10:48 AM

We aren't drafting a QB.

Daboll/Crennel probably wanted Quinn.

Stanzi and Cassel are products of Pioli.

I doubt we go into the season with 4 qbs.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 03-18-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

We aren't drafting a QB.

Daboll/Crennel probably wanted Quinn.

Stanzi and Cassel are products of Pioli.

I doubt we go into the season with 4 qbs.

Wrong. Pioli has stated over and over he wants to draft a QB every year.

Mr. Laz · 03-18-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Wrong. Pioli has stated over and over he wants to draft a QB every year.

link?

Hog's Gone Fishin · 03-18-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

link?

Wouldn't know where to chase it down but I have seen him state that in several different interviews.

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-18-2012, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Wrong. Pioli has stated over and over he wants to draft a QB every year.

Is he going to cut Stanzi after one year?

Is he going to cut his golden-boy?

Is he going to cut the one guy familiar with Daboll's offense, Quinn?

Is he going to go into the season with 4 qbs?

Hog's Gone Fishin · 03-18-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Is he going to cut Stanzi after one year? NO

Is he going to cut his golden-boy? NO

Is he going to cut the one guy familiar with Daboll's offense, Quinn? YES

Is he going to go into the season with 4 qbs? NO

Quinn will end up being released. Watch.

**007** · 03-18-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Quinn will end up being released. Watch.

All the more reason they need to draft a QB in the first two rounds.

Chiefaholic · 03-18-2012, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Quinn will end up being released. Watch.

I just have this gut feeling that we'll draft a rookie in round 1 or 2 (Tannehill or Weeden) in rounds 1 or 2. Quinn will go into camp with Stanzi as his only legit competition for a starting position while the rookie sits for a year learning the offense and adjusting to the NFL.

Depending on where Tannehill falls, we could take him at #11 or trade down 5-6 spots and take Poe #1 then Weeden in round 2

milkman · 03-18-2012, 10:52 AM

Direckshun, as long as Cassel is the starting QB, this is not a team that can make some noise in January.

Direckshun · 03-18-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Direckshun, as long as Cassel is the starting QB, this is not a team that can make some noise in January.

Sanchez? Alex Smith? Joe Flacco?

Cassel's not taking us to the Super Bowl. But a win or two in the playoffs is not beyond the realm of possibility.

milkman · 03-18-2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Sanchez? Alex Smith? Joe Flacco?

Cassel's not taking us to the Super Bowl. But a win or two in the playoffs is not beyond the realm of possibility.

Those guys are mediocre QBs, no question.

Matt Cassel is worse.

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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	1. OG David DeCastro, Stanford Best guard prospect to come along in my young lifetime. He's assured to be a Top Three guard in the NFL, and will help the Chiefs finally find a way to neutralize massive nose tackles while keeping their athletic ZBS alive. 2. NT Alameda Ta'amu, Washington The Chiefs finally take the nose tackle I love. Ta'amu is a massive 340 lbs and runs like it; he's somebody you play in your heavy packages and base defense, and finally gives this team somebody to rely on in the middle for the next ten years. Ta'amu has plenty of two-gapping potential and can collapse the pocket on passing plays. 3. OLB/ILB/DE/??? Shea McClellin, Boise State McClelllin is less valued because he's a phenomenal player (though he is a very solid, classic Vrabel-type), and more because Crennel can do whatever the hell he wants with him at all times. Rush the dirt, drop back in coverage, stand up. He's a bit undersized, but he was a team captain and incredibly coachable. 4. OT Andrew Datko, Florida State Datko is 2nd round talent that falls to the fourth because of an injury history. He's worth taking as a swing tackle behind Albert and Winston. He can play both sides, and do so very well. Zebrie Sanders, a 2nd rounder in this year's draft, had to play the right side for a while because Datko beat him out for LT. 5. FS Trenton Robinson, Michigan State Extremely fast (4.4 speed), ballhawking safety out of the Big Ten. Four interceptions and something like eighty tackles last year. 6. RB Cyrus Gray, Texas A&M The Chiefs need some depth behind two relatively injury prone RBs in Jamaal and Hillis. Gray is a solid 210 lb runner who does nothing spectacularly, but does everything well. 7. C Adam Gettis, Iowa Undersized (280 lbs) but proficient in Ferenz's system, Pioli trusts him and so should we. He is a great run blocker but will need a couple seasons behind Hudson to gain strength and size. Tell me this isn't a team that can make noise in January. QB: Cassel, Quinn, Stanzi RB: Hillis, Charles, McCluster, Gray FB: Bannon WR: Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, Cotchery, Copper TE: Moeaki, Boss, Maneri LT: Albert, Datko LG: DeCastro, Harris C: Hudson, Gettis RG: Asamoah, Harris RT: Winston, Datko DE: Dorsey, Bailey NT: Ta'amu, Gordon, Powe DE: Jackson, Gordon OLB: Hali, Sheffield ILB: Belcher, Siler ILB: Johnson, Siler OLB: Houston, McClellin CB: Flowers, Routt, Arenas, Brown, Daniels S: Berry, Lewis, McGraw, Robinson K: Succop P: Colquitt LS: Gafford KR: Arenas, McCluster PR: Arenas, McCluster
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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	While I don't agree with it, it's not totally unreasonable. This draft's targets: franchise QB franchise NT guard OL depth across the board passrushers depth secondary depth one more RB FB Seeing how there are no franchise QBs in this draft outside of Luck/RG3, this draft doesn't have the insane pressure riding on it previous drafts do. Other than NT, we're pretty much looking for depth everywhere. Previous drafts, including up to 2011, there were far more needs than there were draft picks. This draft clearly does not need to be that way.
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