How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by aturnis

What's the problem, PLEASE elaborate.

THE GUY GETTING PAID $130 MILLION HAS A WORSE CAREER W/L RECORD THAN BOWE

That's the problem

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Brock

Sounds like you don't care about winning races.

Endurance and consistency...

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Endurance and consistency...

Buy a Toyota Corolla then, but it's not getting you getting laid.

[Hammock Parties]

What's Scott Pioli's W-L record?

Is it time for a pay cut?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Just as any good GM would point out Bowe's 2010 production as an outlier...

He didn't rack up the 10th most yardage and 6th most TD's among ALL WIDE RECEIVERS OVER FIVE YEARS due to ONE SEASON.

[RealSNR]

What's next? Are we going to lowball Dustin Colquitt because he has a terrible W/L record as this team's punter?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by aturnis

No, that's bullshit. I ****ING LOOOOOOVE DWAYNE BOWE! He's not wore 100 million dollars though.

I also LOOOOOOVE the new Dodge Challenger, but I'll likely never own one, b/c I don't like the price tag. Even though I can afford it, I will have to pass.

Originally Posted by Brock

Sounds like you don't care about winning races.

Originally Posted by aturnis

Endurance and consistency...

Originally Posted by Toad King

Buy a Toyota Corolla then, but it's not getting you getting laid.

Yep, that's the Chiefs.

Consistently mediocre, but dammit, we saved money!

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by SNR

What's next? Are we going to lowball Dustin Colquitt because he has a terrible W/L record as this team's punter?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

He didn't rack up the 10th most yardage and 6th most TD's among ALL WIDE RECEIVERS OVER FIVE YEARS due to ONE SEASON.

Maybe not yards but 6th most TD's certainly benefited.

Nothing else dramatically jumped like his TD's in 2010.

He caught his 3rd most receptions in a year. He had 3 more yards receiving than he did this year but he more than doubled his previous best TD year.

Is it a coincidence that we just happened to have a non goal line RB having a damn near historic year that year?

[Messier]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Welp, we've found our second dumbest argument behind W/L records for WR's.

I'm honestly near speechless. The ignorance in this thread is mind-numbing.

What are you even talking about? You keep making idiotic arguments, and then calling everyone else an idiot.

You brought up that it needs to be considered Bowe has a crappy QB throwing him the ball, I'm saying does it work both ways.

You hate the Chiefs FO, I get that, so any chance you get you'll take the side that is against them fine. In this case its' Bowe v. Pioli.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

He needs a new contract next offseason. You just watch.

"Dustin, being with the Chiefs is about results, and you don't have results. We're going to pay you like an average middle-of-the-road punter in spite of your years of quality play for the franchise over the years and your long shelf life due to the position you play"

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Maybe not yards but 6th most TD's certainly benefited.

Nothing else dramatically jumped like his TD's in 2010.

He caught his 3rd most receptions in a year. He had 3 more yards receiving than he did this year but he more than doubled his previous best TD year.

Is it a coincidence that we just happened to have a non goal line RB having a damn near historic year that year?

And what's he supposed to do to get those TD numbers back up to where they belong? Go sign with a team that has a QB who can get him the ball in the end zone? I mean, yeah, that would work I guess. Maybe he should try that.

And if you say, "One way he could get better TD numbers is to stop dropping them" I will become very cross

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by SNR

He needs a new contract next offseason. You just watch.

"Dustin, being with the Chiefs is about results, and you don't have results. We're going to pay you like an average middle-of-the-road punter in spite of your years of quality play for the franchise over the years and your long shelf life due to the position you play"

Had to put that earlier exchange in my sig line.

Never forget.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by SNR

And what's he supposed to do to get those TD numbers back up to where they belong?

Go sign with a team that has a QB who can get him the ball in the end zone? I mean, yeah, that would work I guess. Maybe he should try that.

I would think by looking at his 2010 numbers that Cassel can get him the ball in the end zone. It's the yards getting there thats the problem.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Welp, we've found our second dumbest argument behind W/L records for WR's.

I'm honestly near speechless. The ignorance in this thread is mind-numbing.

What's funny is my argument against Bowe is a carbon copy of your argument against Pioli, and you tore it apart. Difference is you dislike Pioli, not Bowe.

Bowe gets to use the SHIT QB as an excuse, but Pioli can't use that or the injury of 3 INCREDIBLY important starters for the entire season.

Yes I realize Pioli traded for Cassel, that is his one and only major mistake as GM. I have believed since the beginning though, that Cassel is a stop gap until we find something better. Doesn't it seem as though Pioli is building up the roster to insert a green QB into a best case scenario? Worked pretty well for Sanchez.

Pioli doesn't get any slack for the 2009 draft, which was scouted by someone else's staff for a completely different system. Even though he's nailed the draft ever since. Building one of the best top to bottom rosters in the league save the QB.

No slack for the QB, even though he's really had no other options(none better anyway) available to him. Outside of Manning, who doesn't want to play for the guys who used to cheat against him.

No slack on his record as GM, even though injuries alone cost us more than enough games to get us into the playoffs last year. Or, that his first year here, he took over a 2-14 roster, which was destined to fail his first year as GM.

Now, b/c he won't pay your favorite player 100 million dollars, he's a big meanie.