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Old 08-16-2012, 07:52 PM   #1
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:53 PM   #2
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If you wanna argue whether they should be on the hook then fine. But wouldn't the part where they said they didn't provide counsel to the killer even though his lawyer declared himself a lawyer with "Progressive Advanced Insurance Company" tell you there's serious malfeasance afoot?
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:26 AM   #3
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If you wanna argue whether they should be on the hook then fine. But wouldn't the part where they said they didn't provide counsel to the killer even though his lawyer declared himself a lawyer with "Progressive Advanced Insurance Company" tell you there's serious malfeasance afoot?
I could almost guarantee that Progressive intervened in the action as an interested third party. Their rights were going to be essentially decided and due to the principles of issue/claim preclusion, if they didn't fight it then, they wouldn't be able to fight it at all (res judicata stuff).

This guy's a layperson, not a lawyer. He doesn't realize what is actually going on so he's making shit up.

Progressive didn't defend the 'killer', they entered on behalf of Progressive and defended their rights in the action. I'd be willing to bet that they actually ended up as a party in the case. Ultimately if they didn't they'd have almost certainly lost their right to challenge the underlying liability of the 'killer' in this case and would've had 3 legs kicked out from under their stool on any later litigation to protect their interests.

This is a blogger that doesn't understand the law or what he's looking at.

Progressive did what any responsible business would've done.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:54 PM   #4
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I think I'd be contacting the Insurance Regulation Board in your state to see about the legality of your sisters insurer representing the defendent. And sorry for your loss man. A person has to lose a sibling to know how it feels. Life's not fair
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Old 08-16-2012, 08:02 PM   #5
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I think I'd be contacting the Insurance Regulation Board in your state to see about the legality of your sisters insurer representing the defendent. And sorry for your loss man. A person has to lose a sibling to know how it feels. Life's not fair
Its not his sister. He reposted some dude's blog without taking out the 1st-person narrative.

Progressive has every right to argue in court that her underinsured motorists coverage shouldn't pay out, if they think it was partially her fault and the other insurance company (which wasn't on the hook for hardly any money at all) isn't interested in doing anything about it.
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Old 08-16-2012, 08:06 PM   #6
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Its not his sister. He reposted some dude's blog without taking out the 1st-person narrative.

Progressive has every right to argue in court that her underinsured motorists coverage shouldn't pay out, if they think it was partially her fault and the other insurance company (which wasn't on the hook for hardly any money at all) isn't interested in doing anything about it.

Should I have edited the guys story? I did throw up the disclaimer just a few posts in.
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Old 08-16-2012, 09:37 PM   #7
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Should I have edited the guys story? I did throw up the disclaimer just a few posts in.
i don't know. if i could figure out it wasn't your sister i would think anyone else could.

i can understand progressive not wanting to pay on the claim. whether it's right or wrong is subject to opinion; but i would think if the defense in the case is coming from progressive then there has to be an issue there.
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:32 AM   #8
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Its not his sister. He reposted some dude's blog without taking out the 1st-person narrative.

Progressive has every right to argue in court that her underinsured motorists coverage shouldn't pay out, if they think it was partially her fault and the other insurance company (which wasn't on the hook for hardly any money at all) isn't interested in doing anything about it.
Yes, they have the right to make a decision. I think it would also be safe to say they were inaccurate in their assumption of negligence. I would also add as someone who worked as an auto claims adjuster (right after I completed my undergraduate degree) that I feel fairly certain that had the other driver been fully covered their "determination" of who was at fault would most likely have been quite different. It can sicken your stomach to sit in on how some of those decisions are made and with such disregard to the customers who are PAYING THEM every month with faith that they will protect them in those times of real loss.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:58 PM   #9
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Just a question, if the defendant in this case wins, would he turn around and sue Progressive for damages as the insurance carrier of her car?
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:58 PM   #10
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insurance and lawyers, yup, sounds like hell. One can say that Progressive didn't do anything wrong, but it would be more difficult to argue that they did anything right as members of human race.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:46 AM   #11
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insurance and lawyers, yup, sounds like hell. One can say that Progressive didn't do anything wrong, but it would be more difficult to argue that they did anything right as members of human race.
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It was pretty clear from the get go this isn't the family of the Chiefs Planet poster. lol
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Old 08-16-2012, 08:07 PM   #13
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