Thoughts on Preseason Game #2

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Frankie

I DVRed the game as I was at a dinner party tonight. So I don't know who looked good or who looked bad. I'm taking your words for them for now. But this is amazing how most of the posters were talking SB possibilities after last week's game and how we are "the worst garbage on the field."

IT'S THE F@#%ING PRESEASON, PEOPLE!!!!

NOTHING MEANS ANYTHING.

Right.

How many times in the past decade have the Chiefs had a losing preseason and a winning regular season?

[notorious]

You guys could fill the Grand Canyon with your tears.

[Hammock Parties]

To be fair to Baldwin, Darius Heyward-Bey needed 3 seasons.

[Chief_For_Life58]

I didn't take much from this game tonight. I saw some good things I saw alot of bad things. we definitely didn't build on last weeks game but its the second preseason game so im gonna wait to see how we finish the preseason out and start the regular season before I start going crazy or not. I dont think im drinking the koolaid people are making saying were gonna be a top 10 defense though. I just dont see it...yet

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58

I didn't take much from this game tonight. I saw some good things I saw alot of bad things. we definitely didn't build on last weeks game but its the second preseason game so im gonna wait to see how we finish the preseason out and start the regular season before I start going crazy or not. I dont think im drinking the koolaid people are making saying were gonna be a top 10 defense though. I just dont see it...yet

We had the 11th ranked defense last year.

This defense will start to find their groove and start knocking folks out soon enough.

[jspchief]

Love the people that are all up on Cassel's bag. He's like a con man. He has this style that leaves a box score making him look like a pro bowl QB, but its like he makes plays with absolutely no regard to what impact it has on the teams actual chances of winning. He's whoring QB rating at the expense of an offense that can actually compete with playoff caliber teams. Need 9 yards for the first down? Box score says Matty completed it (for 7). Down by 14? Matty went on a 12-14 streak (for a FG and the team lost by 18).

Buckle your seatbelts football fans. Matty is gonna take us on another Pro Bowl season ride. Yes, we'll get embarrassed by the true competitors of the league, but we may fall assbackwards into the playoffs by winning the worst division in the NFL. And boy oh boy, look at Matty's stat line.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Love the people that are all up on Cassel's bag. He's like a con man. He has this style that leaves a box score making him look like a pro bowl QB, but its like he makes plays with absolutely no regard to what impact it has on the teams actual chances of winning. He's whoring QB rating at the expense of an offense that can actually compete with playoff caliber teams. Need 9 yards for the first down? Box score says Matty completed it (for 7). Down by 14? Matty went on a 12-14 streak (for a FG and the team lost by 18).

Buckle your seatbelts football fans. Matty is gonna take us on another Pro Bowl season ride. Yes, we'll get embarrassed by the true competitors of the league, but we may fall assbackwards into the playoffs by winning the worst division in the NFL. And boy oh boy, look at Matty's stat line.

Brilliant post.

This is why I am ****ing obsessed with nitpicking every mistake he makes.

Chiefs Nation needs to hear it so every time he ****s up, they have a mental library of what a shithead he is.

Bravo, sir. You are fighting the good fight.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Love the people that are all up on Cassel's bag. He's like a con man. He has this style that leaves a box score making him look like a pro bowl QB, but its like he makes plays with absolutely no regard to what impact it has on the teams actual chances of winning. He's whoring QB rating at the expense of an offense that can actually compete with playoff caliber teams. Need 9 yards for the first down? Box score says Matty completed it (for 7). Down by 14? Matty went on a 12-14 streak (for a FG and the team lost by 18).

Buckle your seatbelts football fans. Matty is gonna take us on another Pro Bowl season ride. Yes, we'll get embarrassed by the true competitors of the league, but we may fall assbackwards into the playoffs by winning the worst division in the NFL. And boy oh boy, look at Matty's stat line.

This pretty much sums it up.

The friend I took to the game last night said something similar after a dumpoff to Charles:

"This is going to be our offense this year - 1 yard pass to [insert player here] and hope they pick up 6 yards."

[BossChief]

Positives:

Charles looked like he trusts the knee and that he hasnt lost his explosion, vision or strength in his runs. Definitely a good sign.

Cassel looked like he is trying to take the next step in his development (sad that at 30 that is even an issue) by trying to push the ball more on intermediate routes. His arm looks visibly stronger and his accuracy seems to have improved...as does his poise, albeit not by leaps and bounds.

Playcalling is much better on offense. I know, I know preseason blah blah...but the plays are in on time and most of the time have been effective.

Hillis looks to be ready for another 2010 year...dude reminds me of a more talented Mike Alstott...hopefully he continues to secure the ball and isnt careless with it in crucial situations like he was in 2010...if he does, our running backs will be in beast mode.

Jerrell Powe looks to be a guy that should probably get some sub package work and is probably deserving of more than that. He is seemingly disruptive on a lot of plays he is in for and if this team is gonna blitz more and use man coverage as much as they are, he can be an asset in a "Jay Ratliff" type role as a penetrating nose when we blitz.

Allen looked to be in beast mode and should be promoted immediately to starting left guard.

Dexter McCluster is kicking big time ass out there and is arguably our best receiver (until Bowe gets his back into the swing of things. He is getting consistent separation and is catching almost everything thrown his way. If he keeps it up, he will provide a valuable weapon to this offense.

Kevin Boss is looking like a stud pickup more and more aqnd should allow our offense to use he and Moeaki similarly to how Gronk/Hernandez get used in NE. Really good value signing.

Dontari Poe is already starting to flash, if you look close enough. He is splitting doubles and beating blocks regularly and had a couple pressures tonight. They need to put him at the3 nose and keep him there...LIKE THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO.

The negatives:

Stanzi looked like hot garbage. No redeemable features were on display tonight. Just a poor showing.

Dorsey/Torbino/Jackson all looked like ass. Not sure what was up tonight with them, but they all looked soft.

The whole secondary...even Berry looked bad tonight and whats really bad is that the Rams have one of the weakest receiving cores in the league and we couldnt even slow them down.

Did I mention Stanzi?...biggest opportunity of his life to show something and he really played poorly.

Bailey...where the **** was he?

Albert has a rough game, too...gave up a couple pressures and a sack iirc. Its a shame...I figured he would be looking very impressive this time of the year in a contract year.

Baldwin...another of "my guys" that underachieved tonight...although I think a large part of that is because he is a guy you just need to throw a few passes a game to him and let him go get it and these guys arent doing that for the kid....they need to show some confidence in him by making it a point to do that.

I hope Romeo turns it up a couple notches in practice this week to get the starters some good work before next week...thats the game that these guys need to be almost ready to line up in a regular season game and if we look out of rythem...that will almost undoubtedly carryover into the regular season.

This team has a lot of work to do to start to realize their potential and if we dont get it going pretty fast, Clay is gonna end up looking like a genius at the end of the year.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Yes that play. Fn peaved me off. **** his candy raider ass if that's how it's going be. I don't care if it is preseason got to look like your giving effort out there damn play like you want to be out there. Plenty of guys that would love the same opportunity just to make the effort.

I wouldn't worry about that in the preseason. INTs are sexy stats for a CB. He'll go all out to make those types of plays when it counts.

[Rasputin]

[QUOTE=BossChief;8831902]Positives:

Baldwin...another of "my guys" that underachieved tonight...although I think a large part of that is because he is a guy you just need to throw a few passes a game to him and let him go get it and these guys arent doing that for the kid....they need to show some confidence in him by making it a point to do that.

QUOTE]

This. Some guys just need the feel of being part of the offense. When they don't get fed the ball makes it harder for them to consentrate when they do get the ball. I'm not saying this is the case tonight, no excuse for Baldwin to fumble it, but got to go back to him just to help with his confedence & be abel to redeem himself. Got to feed the playmakers the ball. Dwayne Bowe is the same way got to keep them from feeling left out there on an island by themselves. That is the life of a WR. That also what you want is a guy who can progress during the game and get it rolling. I think that is on the QB to help guys build that confidence in them. Should have gone right back too him for that opportunity.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

This. Some guys just need the feel of being part of the offense. When they don't get fed the ball makes it harder for them to consentrate when they do get the ball. I'm not saying this is the case tonight, no excuse for Baldwin to fumble it, but got to go back to him just to help with his confedence & be abel to redeem himself. Got to feed the playmakers the ball. Dwayne Bowe is the same way got to keep them from feeling left out there on an island by themselves. That is the life of a WR. That also what you want is a guy who can progress during the game and get it rolling. I think that is on the QB to help guys build that confidence in them. Should have gone right back too him for that opportunity.

This is awful logic when the team is built the way it is. You cant have guys like Baldwin get upset when they dont "get theirs." We dont have Aaron Rodgers that can distribute it to 4 or 5 WRs at any given time. That is why the pick is basically not what fits the current team. You need players like Breaston that can compliment Bowe. Not guys like Baldwin and McCluster that expect to get their touches over better talent like Charles, Hillis, etc in the run game.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

This is awful logic when the team is built the way it is. You cant have guys like Baldwin get upset when they dont "get theirs." We dont have Aaron Rodgers that can distribute it to 4 or 5 WRs at any given time. That is why the pick is basically not what fits the current team. You need players like Breaston that can compliment Bowe. Not guys like Baldwin and McCluster that expect to get their touches over better talent like Charles, Hillis, etc in the run game.

Then I would say that falls on the QB for not being good like Aaron Rogers lol.

I'd say your right, but I like to watch guys get "theirs" just to prove that they can be productive when they get it. If not then they are worthless to the team other than the big body for blocking is a big plus for Baldwin.

Any one notice McCluster trying to throw a block on a LB when we were down at the goal line? It was good effort, it was kind of funny, not a great block but he seemed to make the guy turn away from the ball carrier.

[bevischief]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Positives:

Charles looked like he trusts the knee and that he hasnt lost his explosion, vision or strength in his runs. Definitely a good sign.

Cassel looked like he is trying to take the next step in his development (sad that at 30 that is even an issue) by trying to push the ball more on intermediate routes. His arm looks visibly stronger and his accuracy seems to have improved...as does his poise, albeit not by leaps and bounds.

Playcalling is much better on offense. I know, I know preseason blah blah...but the plays are in on time and most of the time have been effective.

Hillis looks to be ready for another 2010 year...dude reminds me of a more talented Mike Alstott...hopefully he continues to secure the ball and isnt careless with it in crucial situations like he was in 2010...if he does, our running backs will be in beast mode.

Jerrell Powe looks to be a guy that should probably get some sub package work and is probably deserving of more than that. He is seemingly disruptive on a lot of plays he is in for and if this team is gonna blitz more and use man coverage as much as they are, he can be an asset in a "Jay Ratliff" type role as a penetrating nose when we blitz.

Allen looked to be in beast mode and should be promoted immediately to starting left guard.

Dexter McCluster is kicking big time ass out there and is arguably our best receiver (until Bowe gets his back into the swing of things. He is getting consistent separation and is catching almost everything thrown his way. If he keeps it up, he will provide a valuable weapon to this offense.

Kevin Boss is looking like a stud pickup more and more aqnd should allow our offense to use he and Moeaki similarly to how Gronk/Hernandez get used in NE. Really good value signing.

Dontari Poe is already starting to flash, if you look close enough. He is splitting doubles and beating blocks regularly and had a couple pressures tonight. They need to put him at the3 nose and keep him there...LIKE THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO.

The negatives:

Stanzi looked like hot garbage. No redeemable features were on display tonight. Just a poor showing.

Dorsey/Torbino/Jackson all looked like ass. Not sure what was up tonight with them, but they all looked soft.

The whole secondary...even Berry looked bad tonight and whats really bad is that the Rams have one of the weakest receiving cores in the league and we couldnt even slow them down.

Did I mention Stanzi?...biggest opportunity of his life to show something and he really played poorly.

Bailey...where the **** was he?

Albert has a rough game, too...gave up a couple pressures and a sack iirc. Its a shame...I figured he would be looking very impressive this time of the year in a contract year.

Baldwin...another of "my guys" that underachieved tonight...although I think a large part of that is because he is a guy you just need to throw a few passes a game to him and let him go get it and these guys arent doing that for the kid....they need to show some confidence in him by making it a point to do that.

I hope Romeo turns it up a couple notches in practice this week to get the starters some good work before next week...thats the game that these guys need to be almost ready to line up in a regular season game and if we look out of rythem...that will almost undoubtedly carryover into the regular season.

This team has a lot of work to do to start to realize their potential and if we dont get it going pretty fast, Clay is gonna end up looking like a genius at the end of the year.

I agree.

[mr. tegu]

This place...some people choose to be optimistic and look at postive things that can be taken from the game and have a bright outlook for the players and season. These people are called homers in a negative connotation by people that are choosing to look at negatives from the game and harp on them relentlessly, and use their "more informed" stance to prop themselves above those they deem as dumb "homers." The irony is that it is two sides of the same coin.