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Old 08-20-2012, 09:56 PM   #1
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Who cares?

There's plenty of nail Stanzi for. This isn't one of the plays.
Never said it was.

Just tired of the Stanzi apologists making shit up and calling everyone idiots. I never blamed Stanzi for the fluke play. I was just trying to figure out where the hell this phantom "3rd read" came from.
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:04 PM   #2
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Looks like two reads to me. Maneri is the first read.



He comes off Maneri because of the LB drifting in coverage right in front of him.

Maneri looks wide open AFTER Stanzi has thrown the ball and the LB has reacted.
This play was not even on my list of Stanzi facepalms while watching the game, but this gif makes me wonder if he waited for the receiver to stop and turn around before throwing the pass.
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Old 08-23-2012, 09:50 AM   #3
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Look at him stare copper down. It's a five step drop. By the second step he is looking at Copper. The other thing is that he looked off Maneri because he was covered. However, when he stared down Copper, that LB followed his eyes all the way to Copper and he was the second guy in coverage. They had him double covered because the LBer read his eyes. Arguing that that he didn't stare him down is stupid. There is really no argument. The LBer was Rocky McIntosh, a former starter for Washington. He knew what he was doing. You are just whining because I am calling out dudes that played at Iowa.
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Old 08-23-2012, 04:56 PM   #4
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Look at him stare copper down. It's a five step drop. By the second step he is looking at Copper. The other thing is that he looked off Maneri because he was covered. However, when he stared down Copper, that LB followed his eyes all the way to Copper and he was the second guy in coverage. They had him double covered because the LBer read his eyes. Arguing that that he didn't stare him down is stupid. There is really no argument. The LBer was Rocky McIntosh, a former starter for Washington. He knew what he was doing. You are just whining because I am calling out dudes that played at Iowa.
You don't know what you're talking about.

He read Maneris route till he knew he couldn't get the ball to him and the moment he looked over to Copper, the ball came out.

The linebacker was at least 3 yards away from the slant by the time the ball got there.

I even posted a still shot of the moment the ball arrived to show exactly that.

The linebacker didnt come off his coverage of Maneri till Stanzi started his throwing motion to Copper.
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1 straight ahead...maybe a hair to the left...hard to be decisive about it.
2 slightly to the right
3 all the way to the rigth
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:52 PM   #6
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I just played the same play on my Sony 52" top of the line LCD off my directv box and you can see the three places he looks clear as day.

A lot easier to tell than on a smaller gif...but I can clearly see the three angles he looks at during the play on both mediums.
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Seriously...

if he had made a gif of the very first replay it shows of the play, it shows Stanzis face and you can EASILY see all three places he looks.

Its not even debatable.
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Wow.

Stanzi's OL did not do him any favors.

Yeah, that first sack is all on him for holding it too long.

This shit is on his OL, and Cassel draws a flag here. WTF is Stanzi supposed to do? He completes his drop and immediately gets a big bear claw in the face.



Stanzi is being painted pretty badly.

Here is the worst thing he did: he missed this open guy, which led to him getting sacked on the next play, which led to the ill-fated 4th down.





After that his night was over, which kinda sucked.

"Game 6" was still pretty stupid of an idea, but anyone giving up on Stanzi because of this is ignorant.
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If that facemask is called, it nullifies the fumble and gives us a first down in the red zone.

That changes everything.
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Just saw Stanzi's last snap.

Nate Eachus is a ****ing pussy.

How about that run-run-pass-punt bullshit, too, eh?

Not giving up on Stanzi.
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Stanzi pulled that ball down because if he releases it, the corner was closing on an out for a probable pick. Either that or the DE bats it down. That was a heads up play.

Not his fault Nate Eachus is made of kittens.
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Stanzi pulled that ball down because if he releases it, the corner was closing on an out for a probable pick. Either that or the DE bats it down. That was a heads up play.

Not his fault Nate Eachus is made of kittens.
It's debates about exactly that type of play that divides people that either love the kid, or hate him.

I think more times than not, the kid makes the right decision but not everyone sees it the same way.
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Allen Bailey did not have a good game at all.

Watching him get pushed around by 3rd teamers.

Not real impressed.
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