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Old 09-03-2012, 02:48 PM   #1
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So you expect to win?
I think we have a much better chance of winning than most here do.

We need Cassel to play like he did against Seattle in 2010, though.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:49 PM   #2
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I think we have a much better chance of winning than most here do.

We need Cassel to play like he did against Seattle in 2010, though.
I agree but if we win, I give a shit about giffed up. Clay can be gone.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:43 PM   #3
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No, I enjoy our discussions.

Arenas is not crappy. He is a solid nickel back. But he was definitely not worth that 2nd round pick.

It's a criticism of Pioli, not Arenas.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:47 PM   #4
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No, I enjoy our discussions.

Arenas is not crappy. He is a solid nickel back. But he was definitely not worth that 2nd round pick.

It's a criticism of Pioli, not Arenas.
A top 5 returner and one of the better nickel cover corners as well as an effective Blitzer isn't worth a mid-late second rounder in today's NFL?

Answer: yes, it is.
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Old 09-03-2012, 03:14 PM   #5
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A top 5 returner and one of the better nickel cover corners as well as an effective Blitzer isn't worth a mid-late second rounder in today's NFL?

Answer: yes, it is.
over actual starting 3 down players it isnt. Taking Arenas before guys like Terrance Cody, Sean Lee, Pat Angerer, Brandon Spikes, Ben Tate, is a laughable joke.
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Old 09-03-2012, 03:18 PM   #6
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over actual starting 3 down players it isnt. Taking Arenas before guys like Terrance Cody, Sean Lee, Pat Angerer, Brandon Spikes, Ben Tate, is a laughable joke.


The only guy I'd take over Arenas out of those guys is Cody.

BTW...calling Cody or Spikes a "3 down player" is a ****ing joke and shows your inability to understand your own comment.
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Old 09-03-2012, 03:42 PM   #7
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The only guy I'd take over Arenas out of those guys is Cody.

BTW...calling Cody or Spikes a "3 down player" is a ****ing joke and shows your inability to understand your own comment.
all those guys start

at real NFL positions and not a part time gadget 2nd string position
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:00 PM   #8
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over actual starting 3 down players it isnt. Taking Arenas before guys like Terrance Cody, Sean Lee, Pat Angerer, Brandon Spikes, Ben Tate, is a laughable joke.
Cody's a 3 down player All that fat POS has done is bellyflop on Charles in a playoff game
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Old 09-03-2012, 03:17 PM   #9
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A top 5 returner and one of the better nickel cover corners as well as an effective Blitzer isn't worth a mid-late second rounder in today's NFL?

Answer: yes, it is.
Who the hell on the roster is a "top 5 returner"?
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:47 PM   #10
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No, I enjoy our discussions.

Arenas is not crappy. He is a solid nickel back. But he was definitely not worth that 2nd round pick.

It's a criticism of Pioli, not Arenas.
You are completely ****ing clueless on this.

You need a solid 5th CB, and we have one.

A second is NOT too high for his purpose.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:49 PM   #11
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You are completely ****ing clueless on this.

You need a solid 5th CB, and we have one.

A second is NOT too high for his purpose.
5th CB huh? Did you mean nickel?
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:54 PM   #12
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5th CB huh? Did you mean nickel?
I meant DB
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:57 PM   #13
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I meant DB
Gotcha. How a guy who plays pretty much every time there are 3 WR on the field can be treated like a ST player is beyond me. To some here he is just a return guy.
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No, I enjoy our discussions.

Arenas is not crappy. He is a solid nickel back. But he was definitely not worth that 2nd round pick.

It's a criticism of Pioli, not Arenas.
To be fair, he was valued for his return abilities as well. I agree, we could have gotten him in the 3rd (maybe not 4th) but he was valued both as a DB and a returner.
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