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Old 09-25-2012, 09:49 PM   #1
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If he's not better, he's pretty close.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:53 PM   #2
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If he's not better, he's pretty close.
What;s he missing then? I mean Luck was considered the best QB since Peyton, if not Elway and the media slobbed his knob all season. Where is that kind of publicity for Geno? He is getting some love, but nowhere near what Luck got. What did Luck have that Geno lacks?
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:59 PM   #3
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What;s he missing then? I mean Luck was considered the best QB since Peyton, if not Elway and the media slobbed his knob all season. Where is that kind of publicity for Geno? He is getting some love, but nowhere near what Luck got. What did Luck have that Geno lacks?
IMO, Luck is/was better pre-snap. Had a better knowledge of offensive and defensive concepts. Is more intelligent IMO, based on his education at Stanford. Additionally, being brought up in a pro-style, West Coast offensive system helped him in his development and value by pro teams.

Geno's knocks will be from his o-system, and that he won't have two full years of being hyped as the best prospect.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:18 PM   #4
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IMO, Luck is/was better pre-snap. Had a better knowledge of offensive and defensive concepts. Is more intelligent IMO, based on his education at Stanford. Additionally, being brought up in a pro-style, West Coast offensive system helped him in his development and value by pro teams.

Geno's knocks will be from his o-system, and that he won't have two full years of being hyped as the best prospect.

Warming up to Barkley I see
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:21 PM   #5
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What;s he missing then? I mean Luck was considered the best QB since Peyton, if not Elway and the media slobbed his knob all season. Where is that kind of publicity for Geno? He is getting some love, but nowhere near what Luck got. What did Luck have that Geno lacks?
Luck had/has no weakness in his game.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:56 PM   #6
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Lucks got the pedigree. He was pretty much groomed for what was to come.


Geno has developed over his time in college. He does have some flaws, but for the most part they seem to be fixable.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:30 PM   #7
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Lucks got the pedigree. He was pretty much groomed for what was to come.


Geno has developed over his time in college. He does have some flaws, but for the most part they seem to be fixable.
He has flaws, he's no Andrew Luck.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:04 PM   #8
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I've got Wilson alot higher than DJ. He does have a bit of a windup, but it seems like it's better this year than last.


The way he's shown to be a leader with all thats happened this year in Fayetville have made me a little higher on him.
I'm not totally sold on him as a leader. He threw the whole team under the bus while he was out. Even though I mostly agree with the things he said, he should have bitten his tongue and it's things like that that may be a sign of why the problems happen in the first place.

IMO that was a pretty significant red flag.
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Chiefs draft around 12-15.

Smith goes 1
Barkley in top 5
Wilson in top 10

When asked why the Chiefs didn't attempt to go after a real QB, Pioli says, "You gotta remember that we still have a pretty good QB in Matt who made the Pro Bowl not too long ago and has led this team through some tough initial losses to begin the season."

2010 was probably the worst thing that could happen to this franchise (after the Cassel trade, of course)
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:05 AM   #10
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2010 was probably the worst thing that could happen to this franchise (after the Cassel trade, of course)
2009 was the worst thing to happen since 1999. Carl should have been gone with Marty.
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:53 PM   #11
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Chiefs draft around 12-15.

Smith goes 1
Barkley in top 5
Wilson in top 10

When asked why the Chiefs didn't attempt to go after a real QB, Pioli says, "You gotta remember that we still have a pretty good QB in Matt who made the Pro Bowl not too long ago and has led this team through some tough initial losses to begin the season."

2010 was probably the worst thing that could happen to this franchise (after the Cassel trade, of course)
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:54 PM   #12
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Chiefs draft around 12-15.

Smith goes 1
Barkley in top 5
Wilson in top 10

When asked why the Chiefs didn't attempt to go after a real QB, Pioli says, "You gotta remember that we still have a pretty good QB in Matt who made the Pro Bowl not too long ago and has led this team through some tough initial losses to begin the season."

2010 was probably the worst thing that could happen to this franchise (after the Cassel trade, of course)
I think Dane hit on this, but the worst thing to happen to this franchise is hiring Pioli in 2009.
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meh. somebody will trade up to get the QB we want the pick before ours. Then we will find out that Pioli wasn't going to draft a QB anyway.
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Jeff George had a rocket arm with pretty good accuracy. He could also throw beautiful spirals

I think what DJ is saying is that Petrino's system can mask a QB's deficiencies and put him in positions where he doesn't have to be quick-thinking, mobile, or have great pocket awareness.

I need to see more of Wilson before I determine if he's got "it". I'm not making any judgments yet.
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Jeff George had a rocket arm with pretty good accuracy. He could also throw beautiful spirals

I think what DJ is saying is that Petrino's system can mask a QB's deficiencies and put him in positions where he doesn't have to be quick-thinking, mobile, or have great pocket awareness.

I need to see more of Wilson before I determine if he's got "it". I'm not making any judgments yet.
Yup, that's what I'm saying.

I was with everyone else - excited that perhaps we would stumble into our answer at QB if this kid declared. I tried to watch him with as unbiased an eye as I could get.

In the end, I just wasn't that impressed by him. That system made him look far better than he was, IMO. It's the opposite of the argument I made with Bradford - sure, Bradford's system sure made things easy on him, but when you watched him throw he was just so precise in his targets and so crisp with his rhythm and timing that you could see he could be successful in virtually any system.

Wilson doesn't have that look to me. He looks like a guy with some very obvious warts (and leadership concerns) that's playing in a pass-happy system with a wealth of weapons at his disposal. Oh, and I also don't think he has a cannon anymore than Barkley does. He has an NFL arm, to be sure. But Stafford has a cannon. Luck and Griffin have cannon's. Bray has a cannon. Wilson just has a solid NFL arm.

I think years of watching Cassel has warped our expectation of an NFL quarterback. Wilson's arm would be, at best, slightly above average in the NFL.
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