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Old 03-11-2013, 05:19 PM   #1
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Speculation? What's the speculation?

Matt Ryan has been an underperforming NFL QB. Period. Like Matt Stafford, he hasn't been a Franchise QB. He's led them to ONE playoff game in 5 seasons, yet the GM has bent over backwards to surround him with talent.

Unless the Falcons win the Super Bowl next year (not likely), it wouldn't surprise me to see them move on to a different QB.

Why pay Matt Ryan $15 million a year when he can't win shit?
The Falcons have allowed 30, 48, 24, 28, and 28 points in the five playoff games with Ryan at the trigger. Must be Ryan's fault they give up 32 points per game on average in the postseason even though they have scored fewer than 24 points exactly once in those five games.
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:13 PM   #2
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That's all speculation, man. Just because one team spent that much surrounding him with talent....doesn't mean that the other team would have. And that's not even to say that the Dolphins couldn't have succeeded with Ryan as their QB and not overspending to surround him with talent.
The Dolphins were in a completely different situation than the Falcons, though. The Falcons had a decent team but had no backup plan for Vick, leading to Leftwich and Harrington to start. Their coach quit on them, but they had other pieces on the team already(Abraham, White, Babineaux, etc).

Miami had some decent parts, but not to the extent of Atlanta.
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:13 PM   #3
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Since 2008, Atlanta spent the #3 overall pick on Matt Ryan, traded two second round picks on Sam Baker to protect him (#34, #48 & #103), a second round pick in 2010 for Tony Gonzalez (#50), then traded for Julio Jones to help him even more and spent #27, #59 and #124 in 2011 and #22 and #120 in the 2012 draft.

That's two 1st rounders, four 2nd rounders and three fourth rounders to help out Matt Ryan.

Since acquiring Ryan with the #3 overall pick in 2008, the Atlanta Falcons have won exactly ONE playoff game.

How ANYONE could believe that the Miami Dolphins would have been better off with Matt Ryan as their QB, especially without giving up an absolutely egregious amount of picks in order to surround him with talent, is beyond me.
They've also gone 14-2 twice IIRC and every one of their playoff losses have come to a SB participant (Cards, Packers, Giants, 49ers).
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:22 PM   #4
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They've also gone 14-2 twice IIRC and every one of their playoff losses have come to a SB participant (Cards, Packers, Giants, 49ers).
But if you're going to compare the draft choices of Matt Ryan to Jake Long and state that Miami "did the safe thing", Atlanta should have something to show for it, right?

Right?
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:24 PM   #5
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But if you're going to compare the draft choices of Matt Ryan to Jake Long and state that Miami "did the safe thing", Atlanta should have something to show for it, right?

Right?
Four playoff appearances in five seasons...all ending with poor defensive showings
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:24 PM   #6
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They've also gone 14-2 twice IIRC and every one of their playoff losses have come to a SB participant (Cards, Packers, Giants, 49ers).
And in winning those division titles, they've gone up against such wicked teams such as the Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Bucs and the declining Saints.

The bottom line is that selecting Ryan over Jake Long wouldn't have necessarily provided different results for either team.
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:26 PM   #7
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And in winning those division titles, they've gone up against such wicked teams such as the Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Bucs and the declining Saints.

The bottom line is that selecting Ryan over Jake Long wouldn't have necessarily provided different results for either team.
It possibly could have. How many QBs have the Dolphins drafted/signed since they drafted Jake Long?

All of those picks/money could have been spent on other positions.
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:14 PM   #8
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Since 2008, Atlanta spent the #3 overall pick on Matt Ryan, traded two second round picks on Sam Baker to protect him (#34, #48 & #103), a second round pick in 2010 for Tony Gonzalez (#50), then traded for Julio Jones to help him even more and spent #27, #59 and #124 in 2011 and #22 and #120 in the 2012 draft.

That's two 1st rounders, four 2nd rounders and three fourth rounders to help out Matt Ryan.

Since acquiring Ryan with the #3 overall pick in 2008, the Atlanta Falcons have won exactly ONE playoff game.

How ANYONE could believe that the Miami Dolphins would have been better off with Matt Ryan as their QB, especially without giving up an absolutely egregious amount of picks in order to surround him with talent, is beyond me.
You're including fourth rounders in this equation to demonstrate this egregious amount of picks over five seasons? How about the two first rounders and four third rounders they spent on defense? In theory, isn't that pretty balanced?
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:17 PM   #9
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Falcons moving on from Matt Ryan.

That is one teams "trash" I would gladly get behind the Chiefs pursuing.
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Old 02-15-2013, 10:28 AM   #12
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they should sign Albert and move him to guard.
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I don't understand how PFF grades Albert's run blocking so low when our OL gains a vastly better YPC behind him than it does anywhere else.

Even the Jones/Battle duo averaged 5.0 YPC behind Albert.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:50 PM   #15
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the media told me that there aren't any QB's worth drafting so we should go with the LT!!!!!! Look at Miami and Cleveland, a top pick at LT translates to success!
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