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Old 03-11-2013, 07:10 PM   #1
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Matt Ryan holds the record for most wins by a QB in his first 5 seasons. He sucks.
Well what is Jake Longs record as starting LT with the Dolphins? Yep Dolphins made the better choice.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:23 PM   #2
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Well what is Jake Longs record as starting LT with the Dolphins? Yep Dolphins made the better choice.
Matt Ryan is the all time wins leader in Atlanta. Jake Long also plays football.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:25 PM   #3
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Matt Ryan is the all time wins leader in Atlanta. Jake Long also plays football.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:39 PM   #4
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Matt Ryan is the all time wins leader in Atlanta. Jake Long also plays football.
For ****'s Sake, are you stating that Atlanta was an elite team at ANY point in their existence?
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:41 PM   #5
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Matt Ryan is the all time wins leader in Atlanta. Jake Long also plays football.
Nice. Avoid reality to make snide comments instead.

Let's make this the simple: Would Miami, coming off a 1-15 season, be better off today had they taken Ryan? If so, prove it.

Otherwise, shut your ****ing piehole.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:48 PM   #6
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Nice. Avoid reality to make snide comments instead.

Let's make this the simple: Would Miami, coming off a 1-15 season, be better off today had they taken Ryan? If so, prove it.

Otherwise, shut your ****ing piehole.
Just to be clear, you're asking me to prove something that didn't happen would would have happened? Unfortunately, I'm bound by this pesky space-time continuum. Otherwise, I would get right on that.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:22 PM   #7
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Nice. Avoid reality to make snide comments instead.

Let's make this the simple: Would Miami, coming off a 1-15 season, be better off today had they taken Ryan? If so, prove it.

Otherwise, shut your ****ing piehole.
Would you say Chad Pennington was better than Matt Ryan?
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:10 PM   #8
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Prior to Ryan's arrival Atlanta had never had 2 winning seasons in a row. He's not 50/50 to return, he's 100% to return with a $100,000,000 extension.

I watch a lot of Atlanta games since that's where I live. They made strides this year, with their big coordinator switch, but they have been the most boring, dull team to watch. The problem isn't Ryan, it's been piss poor coaching, and a piss poor defense. They love the 'Michael Turner 2 yards and a cloud of dust' approach, even though they're a dome team.

Ryan's a good QB. I think people see a better team around him than he really has.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:29 PM   #9
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:42 PM   #10
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And you've failed to prove how Miami is worse off than Atlanta because they chose Long over Ryan.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:46 PM   #11
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What you don't understand is that the Dolphins haven't had to waste a bunch of draft picks on offense. For example, in 2008, only 6 of their top 8 picks were on offense including a QB in the second.

In 2009, it was only 4 of the first 6 with another QB in the second round.


Don't even get me started on 2010. Only 1 of the first 3 picks were offensive players. Granted, 2011, their first 4 picks were all offense, but in 2012, only 5 of the first 6 were offensive players including trading up for a QB in the first.

Could you imagine if they had drafted Matt Ryan? They would have probably wound up drafting a bunch of offensive players with high picks and wouldn't even have Pat White, Chad Henne, and Ryan Tannehill to show for their two second rounders, a first rounder, plus the picks they traded away to move up for Tannehill.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:48 PM   #12
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What you don't understand is that the Dolphins haven't had to waste a bunch of draft picks on offense. For example, in 2008, only 6 of their top 8 picks were on offense including a QB in the second.

In 2009, it was only 4 of the first 6 with another QB in the second round.


Don't even get me started on 2010. Only 1 of the first 3 picks were offensive players. Granted, 2011, their first 4 picks were all offense, but in 2012, only 5 of the first 6 were offensive players including trading up for a QB in the first.

Could you imagine if they had drafted Matt Ryan? They would have probably wound up drafting a bunch of offensive players with high picks and wouldn't even have Pat White, Chad Henne, and Ryan Tannehill to show for their two second rounders, a first rounder, plus the picks they traded away to move up for Tannehill.
Wow, way to compare apples to oranges.



The more I read from you in this thread, the more I realize that you'd prefer to argue rather than use any common sense.

Again, par for the course.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:48 PM   #13
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What you don't understand is that the Dolphins haven't had to waste a bunch of draft picks on offense. For example, in 2008, only 6 of their top 8 picks were on offense including a QB in the second.

In 2009, it was only 4 of the first 6 with another QB in the second round.


Don't even get me started on 2010. Only 1 of the first 3 picks were offensive players. Granted, 2011, their first 4 picks were all offense, but in 2012, only 5 of the first 6 were offensive players including trading up for a QB in the first.

Could you imagine if they had drafted Matt Ryan? They would have probably wound up drafting a bunch of offensive players with high picks and wouldn't even have Pat White, Chad Henne, and Ryan Tannehill to show for their two second rounders, a first rounder, plus the picks they traded away to move up for Tannehill.
But, can you prove they still wouldn't have taken those same guys?
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:52 PM   #14
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But, can you prove they still wouldn't have taken those same guys?
Ha ha ha, **** you, too.

Seriously, **** you.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:07 PM   #15
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Manning has won 14 games in a season twice...the same as Ryan.
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