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Old 03-18-2013, 09:02 PM   #1
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Flacco is a lot like Eli: A mediocre fantasy QB that has quietly put together multiple elite playoff seasons now.

That matters. In the last two postseasons he's thoroughly whipped Brady's ass twice, Manning's once, put together a damned nice SB, and a should-have-been-game-winning AFCCG drive.

Yeah, the Rahim Moore play was lucky, but so was the helmet catch, Tuck Rule, the end zone pick that the Bengal dropped in his breadbasket in SB XXIII, and several other examples.
Ok I agree...

Eli played about as bad as Alex Smith in the 2011 NFCCG.

Eli is three miracles away from Tom Brady being 5-5.

I agree that Eli and Flacco have elevated their play in the postseason.

I also think Eli >>>> Flacco

and I also think Flacco is what Flacco is...and if the team can overcome his inconsistency perhaps he can do what he did the past two seasons again...

but I'm not banking on it...

and if I'm a Ravens fan I'm happy as shit we won a Super Bowl but I'm not looking forward to 2013 and thinking "WE'RE GONNA DO IT AGAIN!"

No, I'd be thinking..."boy, I think we're ****ed."

Give me Russell Wilson please. He's going to be a hall of famer. In 3 years or less (I say 2), everyone will be like "he's the best QB in the NFL."
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:52 PM   #2
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Dawg. I disagree wholeheartedly.
Wtf has Stafford done besides throw the ball a ridiculous amount of times and rack up tons of yards?

Ryan is good and I'd put him in or near the top 10 as well but he's still behind Flacco because of what Flacco just did.

RG3 was a rookie that couldn't finish the year and may wind up on the IR every season.

Newton hasn't accomplished shit in the NFL.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:17 PM   #3
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Chiefs QB's in 16 games this year were like -25 (or maybe worse)?
Alex Smith in 8 games was +8 in 2012 and +17.5 in 2011

so lets just say he got to +15 this year...

That's a +40 differential between our QB's...

which is higher than what Russell Wilson gave to the Seahawks as the #5 rated PFF QB

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Old 03-18-2013, 08:19 PM   #4
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:20 PM   #5
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:31 PM   #6
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this defense needs an asshole on the team...a vet to fire some of these uber talented young guys up...I would be totally fine with a 2 down Bart Scott for a minimal contract.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:32 PM   #7
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this defense needs an asshole on the team...a vet to fire some of these uber talented young guys up...I would be totally fine with a 2 down Bart Scott for a minimal contract.
You're probably right. I just think he's an asshole that doesn't have much left.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:37 PM   #8
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You're probably right. I just think he's an asshole that doesn't have much left.
I doubt he has anything left lol

but this team is in desperate need of a guy like that...someone who has been on winning defenses and someone that may give the guys an edge...

our talented defensive guys are too used to losing and don't play with enough edge IMO
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I doubt he has anything left lol

but this team is in desperate need of a guy like that...someone who has been on winning defenses and someone that may give the guys an edge...

our talented defensive guys are too used to losing and don't play with enough edge IMO
Bart Scott to the Chiefs?

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Old 03-18-2013, 09:20 PM   #10
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I doubt he has anything left lol

but this team is in desperate need of a guy like that...someone who has been on winning defenses and someone that may give the guys an edge...

our talented defensive guys are too used to losing and don't play with enough edge IMO
They usually start with plenty of "edge". Then, the offense led by slapdick QB does its usual bang up job and by mid-third quarter, the fire has left the building. Can Alice and Reed correct this horrible dynamic? Stay tuned!
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Scott is a two down thumper...not a rush backer. Wouldn't mind having his veteran presence on the team since he's been on winning defenses. Our guys are too used to losing.
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Flacco had a great, great, great postseason which was gifted to him by the worst defensive play in the history of the NFL by Rahim Moore.

If that DIDN'T happen, no one would consider Joe Flacco anything more than a fringe top 10-15 QB that has major consistency issues.

This whole idea that he's elite now because he lucked into one Super Bowl makes me LOL.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:56 PM   #14
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Flacco had a great, great, great postseason which was gifted to him by the worst defensive play in the history of the NFL by Rahim Moore.

If that DIDN'T happen, no one would consider Joe Flacco anything more than a fringe top 10-15 QB that has major consistency issues.

This whole idea that he's elite now because he lucked into one Super Bowl makes me LOL.
Big difference between elite and top 10.

I'd say there are only 4 elite QBs.

Rodgers
Brady
P. Manning
Brees

E. Manning is probably 5 but I don't consider him an elite QB.
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Big difference between elite and top 10.

I'd say there are only 4 elite QBs.

Rodgers
Brady
P. Manning
Brees

E. Manning is probably 5 but I don't consider him an elite QB.
I'd take Russell Wilson and Colin Kaepernick over Drew Brees next year without a doubt.

Russell Wilson is a lock in my eyes. He'll be considered the best QB in the NFL within 2 years. Kaepernick is the most physically gifted QB to ever lace up a pair of cleats.

Brees is great and all but the amount of tipped balls and INT's he continues to throw is alarming. I think the Saints are done being Super Bowl contenders.

I love Rodgers. He's one flaw away from being the perfect QB (he needs to stop taking too many sacks).

Brady and Manning are on their last legs and will Manning be able to win in the cold when it counts? Will Brady be able to play good in the postseason ever again?

If I could choose one QB for 2013 I'm choosing Russell Wilson.
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