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Old 04-28-2013, 08:36 PM  
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Jason Cole expects Chiefs to trade Albert for pick in '14

Branden Albert - T - Chiefs
Yahoo Sports' Jason Cole expects the Chiefs to end up trading Branden Albert for a second-round pick in 2014.
Cole mentions the Lions, Chargers, and Cardinals as teams that remain left tackle-needy after the draft and might be interested in Albert. The Lions would make a lot of sense because internally they have major questions about Riley Reiff's viability at tackle and prefer him at guard. The Dolphins could also jump back into the bidding. Although the Albert-to-Miami draft-week trade fell through, the sides had agreed to parameters of a long-term contract.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:04 PM   #211
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Care to make a wager on that?

Foreseeable future = next 4 drafts?
I could see one being drafted next year regardless how the chiefs do this season.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:06 PM   #212
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I disagree with that. If you guys end up with a top 5 next year. You for sure will draft a qb, and Alex Smith will be gone. Too many options next season, (at the moment) stuff changes i know, but you can count on Bridgewater, Boyd, Renner, Aaron Murray, Heisman, Logan Thomas, all being considered top 3 round qbs at the moment.
It's battered fan syndrome.

We don't expect our team to do anything but what they've been doing for 20 years now. Trade for back up... coddle and make excuses for him. Back up makes a probowl in spite of team not really winning or him not really playing well. Plays like garbage the next season and new back up QB is traded for.

We don't 'draft' QB's in Kansas City.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:08 PM   #213
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It's battered fan syndrome.

We don't expect our team to do anything but what they've been doing for 20 years now. Trade for back up... coddle and make excuses for him. Back up makes a probowl in spite of team not really winning or him not really playing well. Plays like garbage the next season and new back up QB is traded for.

We don't 'draft' QB's in Kansas City.
I would agree with you, except its dorsey, and Reid. They value qbs. Dont even think about rodgers, but the year they drafted Brian Brohm in the second, they drafted Matt flynn in the 7th. Its just the way they are built.....
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:12 PM   #214
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I would agree with you, except its dorsey, and Reid. They value qbs. Dont even think about rodgers, but the year they drafted Brian Brohm in the second, they drafted Matt flynn in the 7th. Its just the way they are built.....
Except for this year.
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Except for this year.
Not necessarily, they actually attacked that with a trade and free agency. No need for them to add one they werent sure about. Although they did add bray, so they added three new ones. That satisfy you?
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:18 PM   #216
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Not necessarily, they actually attacked that with a trade and free agency. No need for them to add one they werent sure about. Although they did add bray, so they added three new ones. That satisfy you?
Not at all. Andy has had a hard on for Smith for quite some time. He chose not to bring in any real challenger. That sucks. It's the same thing Pioli did.
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Except for this year.
In analyzing the Chiefs, it's best to disregard all empirical evidence.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:22 PM   #218
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Christ, we'll get a comp pick for him if he walks and it would probably be a late 3rd rounder.

If we can't get a high second or better, then he's more valuable on the field for one more season.
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Care to make a wager on that?

Foreseeable future = next 4 drafts?
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It's battered fan syndrome.

We don't expect our team to do anything but what they've been doing for 20 years now. Trade for back up... coddle and make excuses for him. Back up makes a probowl in spite of team not really winning or him not really playing well. Plays like garbage the next season and new back up QB is traded for.

We don't 'draft' QB's in Kansas City.
I sometimes question what we would've done had we sucked enough for Luck last year.

I'm not even joking--I'm not convinced we'd have taken Andrew ****ing Luck.

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I don't make stupid wagers on ultimately meaningless shit on the web. If I end up being wrong, I won't run away from my error, just like any other time.
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I would agree with you, except its dorsey, and Reid. They value qbs. Dont even think about rodgers, but the year they drafted Brian Brohm in the second, they drafted Matt flynn in the 7th. Its just the way they are built.....
That's all fine and dandy and all, but it doesn't mean anything to me or other Chiefs fans.

We can't hang our hat on the past of these two guys. It doesn't do us any good. I have hated this off-season immensely and I didn't want Andy Reid here in the first place. He's going to do what he did in Philly... draft numerous busts because he drafts physical ability over football ability and gives no regard to if the players he is drafting are shitty human beings. Besides almost seeking out bad character players, he's also known for spending ass tons of money in FA for average players.

We didn't get Andy Reid from the first five years in Philly... we got the Andy Reid who nuked the whole team over the past 3 years with insane personnel decisions.
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That's all fine and dandy and all, but it doesn't mean anything to me or other Chiefs fans.

We can't hang our hat on the past of these two guys. It doesn't do us any good. I have hated this off-season immensely and I didn't want Andy Reid here in the first place. He's going to do what he did in Philly... draft numerous busts because he drafts physical ability over football ability and gives no regard to if the players he is drafting are shitty human beings. Besides almost seeking out bad character players, he's also known for spending ass tons of money in FA for average players.

We didn't get Andy Reid from the first five years in Philly... we got the Andy Reid who nuked the whole team over the past 3 years with insane personnel decisions.
I'm so so on Reid. I think he's a terrific coach but we are going to get a lot of late round playoff games where he manages our way to a loss.

But let's be real. It sounds like the free agent frenzy was the doings of the phillyfront office, not rReid. And in fairness, the Eagles have been pretty good at drafting and terrific on offense. Where Reid has struggled is finding a defensive identity after Jim Johnson died. I'm hoping Sutton fixes that. After all, the majority of these busts you're talking about were on defense.
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. The Chiefs aren't drafting a QB in the first in the foreseeable future. No ****ing chance. Even if they're top 5, there will be a WR (or something) that better "warrants" the selection.

You know this, and I know this. Some, however, will perform mental gymnastics to try to argue otherwise.
Eh - depends.

Unlike Pioli, Reid and Dorsey don't seem clearly married to Smith. They've been extremely smart to have him play this season under his old contract. If he struggles or is even a mediocre QB, I think you'll see them quickly start to move away from him as a long-term option.

Pioli was going to come in and put his stamp on this organization, by God. And his very first move was Cassel - he needed to make Cassel a success and was going to do everything in his power to ensure it happened. Reid, on the other hand, has a long track record of performance in this league. It's not all sunshine and roses, but he has cache that Pioli/Haley/Fat**** never had.

He can cut bait on Alex Smith and it won't damage his credibility all that much. As such, if Smith struggles this year, they'll give him 2014 to prove just exactly what he is and if he's not the man, well they'll either like where Bray has gone or I genuinely think they'll turn to a 1st rounder type at QB.

So either Smith will perform admirably (90ish QB rating; 2.5-1 TD/IN ratio and 3500+ yds or so) or we'll go after a first round QB. I can live with either of those eventualities.
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Eh - depends.

Unlike Pioli, Reid and Dorsey don't seem clearly married to Smith. They've been extremely smart to have him play this season under his old contract. If he struggles or is even a mediocre QB, I think you'll see them quickly start to move away from him as a long-term option.

Pioli was going to come in and put his stamp on this organization, by God. And his very first move was Cassel - he needed to make Cassel a success and was going to do everything in his power to ensure it happened. Reid, on the other hand, has a long track record of performance in this league. It's not all sunshine and roses, but he has cache that Pioli/Haley/Fat**** never had.

He can cut bait on Alex Smith and it won't damage his credibility all that much. As such, if Smith struggles this year, they'll give him 2014 to prove just exactly what he is and if he's not the man, well they'll either like where Bray has gone or I genuinely think they'll turn to a 1st rounder type at QB.

So either Smith will perform admirably (90ish QB rating; 2.5-1 TD/IN ratio and 3500+ yds or so) or we'll go after a first round QB. I can live with either of those eventualities.
But we didn't try this year!!!!!!!!!!!
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