Have you ever used steroids, HGH, etc.?

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

And, speaking as a woman, we are judged heavily if we aren't perfect. If we are a little overweight, less than perfect tits, fat ass etc...Dont believe me, read half the threads on this forum about women. Hell, "have you ever banged a fat chick" thread is enough to get my point across. So, as much as some want to be like, 'I dont understand why people have body image issues" then you arent paying attention to how society deals with body images.

How often do yous see a commercial with a fat balding dude with a hot tiny little wife pimping Lysol? All the time! Conversly, a hot dude with a fat pumply wife pimping Lysol? NEVER.

So those of you judging what people do in the privacy of their own body to make themselves feel better and look better, get off your high horse.

I would submit that it's a lot easier for a woman to meet conventional standards of beauty. Basically, be thin.

It's a lot harder for a guy to get a physique like Ryan Reynolds than for a woman to get a body like Natalie Portman.

I'll concede that there is more emphasis on women's looks than on men's.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I would submit that it's a lot easier for a woman to meet conventional standards of beauty. Basically, be thin.

It's a lot harder for a guy to get a physique like Ryan Reynolds than for a woman to get a body like Natalie Portman.

I'll concede that there is more emphasis on women's looks than on men's.

On the Planet where all Chiefs cheerleaders are thin and still called dogs you say that is all it takes for women?

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

On the Planet where all Chiefs cheerleaders are thin and still called dogs you say that is all it takes for women?

Good point. I guess I'm referring to a persons physique.

A woman really just needs to be thin. Big tits and thick asses help, but they aren't mandatory. Height doesn't really even matter.

It's a lot more work to get washboard abs, and you're pretty much either 6'3 or you aren't.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I would submit that it's a lot easier for a woman to meet conventional standards of beauty. Basically, be thin.

It's a lot harder for a guy to get a physique like Ryan Reynolds than for a woman to get a body like Natalie Portman.

I'll concede that there is more emphasis on women's looks than on men's.

You dont need PEDs to get a physique like Ryan Reynolds. Dude is pretty skinny.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I would submit that it's a lot easier for a woman to meet conventional standards of beauty. Basically, be thin.

It's a lot harder for a guy to get a physique like Ryan Reynolds than for a woman to get a body like Natalie Portman.

I'll concede that there is more emphasis on women's looks than on men's.

Sorry, but its just as difficult (maybe more, I dont know) due to hormonal issues. We gain 5-10 lbs in one week just because of our periods. Plus our body naturally keeps more fat on for baby carrying purposes (whether we are pregnant or not).

Im not saying its easy for guys, but to say its easier for women is just plain wrong.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Sorry, but its just as difficult (maybe more, I dont know) due to hormonal issues. We gain 5-10 lbs in one week just because of our periods. Plus our body naturally keeps more fat on for baby carrying purposes (whether we are pregnant or not).

Im not saying its easy for guys, but to say its easier for women is just plain wrong.

I understand what you're saying, but go to any local pool. You'll see a lot more thin women with nice boobs than guys with six packs.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Sorry, but its just as difficult (maybe more, I dont know) due to hormonal issues. We gain 5-10 lbs in one week just because of our periods. Plus our body naturally keeps more fat on for baby carrying purposes (whether we are pregnant or not).

Im not saying its easy for guys, but to say its easier for women is just plain wrong.

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I understand what you're saying, but go to any local pool. You'll see a lot more thin women with nice boobs than guys with six packs.

Because typically guys carry excess weight in the belly and women carry it in their asses.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I understand what you're saying, but go to any local pool. You'll see a lot more thin women with nice boobs than guys with six packs.

Well, that may have more to do with heavier women being more self conscience about their body then dudes. Heavier women wont go to the pool, while dudes with beer guts will.

Again, socially we see it being ok for guys being overweight, or at least not having to have 6 packs, and still being able to pull hot women. We see it on TV, movies etc it being ok for the guy to be overweight, but its not ok for wmen. So it is more socially acceptable for a dude to run around the pool with his gut hanging out then it is for a fat chick to be prancing around in a bikini.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Well, that may have more to do with heavier women being more self conscience about their body then dudes. Heavier women wont go to the pool, while dudes with beer guts will.

Again, socially we see it being ok for guys being overweight, or at least not having to have 6 packs, and still being able to pull hot women. We see it on TV, movies etc it being ok for the guy to be overweight, but its not ok for wmen. So it is more socially acceptable for a dude to run around the pool with his gut hanging out then it is for a fat chick to be prancing around in a bikini.

That part is certainly true.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Again, socially we see it being ok for guys being overweight, or at least not having to have 6 packs, and still being able to pull hot women.

Come, Carlota. That's because 95% of those "hot" women are willing to be with a heavier/older man because it often comes with perks of not needing to work, or to have a job to support herself, among other things.

That's especially prevelant in places like Vegas, so your perception is probably skewed.

Originally Posted by carlota69

We see it on TV, movies etc it being ok for the guy to be overweight, but its not ok for wmen.

It's seen on TV but very rarely these days. While "King of Queens" was certainly the most obvious offender, for the most part, couples are generally equal in terms of looks and size.

Originally Posted by Carlota69

So it is more socially acceptable for a dude to run around the pool with his gut hanging out then it is for a fat chick to be prancing around in a bikini.

I don't think it's more socially acceptable. I just think that most people don't care. Go to a beach in Florida and tell me you won't see equal overweight men and women. Go to Santa Monica beach and tell me you don't see overweight men and women in bathing suits on the beach.

The issue is that being overweight and obese is more prevalent than lean, fit people, especially among older adults.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Come, Carlota. That's because 95% of those "hot" women are willing to be with a heavier/older man because it often comes with perks of not needing to work, or to have a job to support herself, among other things.

That's especially prevelant in places like Vegas, so your perception is probably skewed.



It's seen on TV but very rarely these days. While "King of Queens" was certainly the most obvious offender, for the most part, couples are generally equal in terms of looks and size.



I don't think it's more socially acceptable. I just think that most people don't care. Go to a beach in Florida and tell me you won't see equal overweight men and women. Go to Santa Monica beach and tell me you don't see overweight men and women in bathing suits on the beach.

The issue is that being overweight and obese is more prevalent than lean, fit people, especially among older adults.

Wow, you are not in tune with society at all are you? I see commercial after commercial with fat balding goofy guy with hot petite woman. It's way more common than the other way. And it has been for awhile. I can't even believe for a second that men are under the same scrutiny that women are when it comes to weight and looks and the value attached. It's not even close. I'm not saying men aren't scrutinized, but not nearly as heavily as women. I can't tell you how many times I've come across a bunch of fat, sloppy dudes putting down a woman because she has a muffin top, or her tits aren't perfect enough.

Men like Sean Connery can win sexist man alive at age 70, but I can't even think of woman who won Sexiest woman alive that was over 40. Woman are scrutinized more and we know it. I can't go to a beach and tell you how many fat women are there vs hot women, but I can tell you that women are more conscience of their fat hanging out and are more apt not to go to a pool party, whereas guys have no issue with it typically because no one cares, as you say. They don't care because its more socially acceptable. Plain and simple.

Again, I know men have their own issues with body image, vanity etc...but to say its equal is ridiculous.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Wow, you are not in tune with society at all are you? I see commercial after commercial with fat balding goofy guy with hot petite woman. It's way more common than the other way. And it has been for awhile. I can't even believe for a second that men are under the same scrutiny that women are when it comes to weight and looks and the value attached. It's not even close. I'm not saying men aren't scrutinized, but not nearly as heavily as women. I can't tell you how many times I've come across a bunch of fat, sloppy dudes putting down a woman because she has a muffin top, or her tits aren't perfect enough.

I guess not. Maybe it's because I fast forward through the commercials or the fact that I know many super hot women that are married to guys that are in very good shape. I can't think of a single "fat man" that's married to a hot woman that I know of, have seen or know personally.

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Men like Sean Connery can win sexist man alive at age 70, but I can't even think of woman who won Sexiest woman alive that was over 40.

If you're using People magazine as your baseline, then yeah, images are skewed. But is that people in real life base their views upon?

FWIW, Connery was named sexiest man alive in 1989, when he was 59 years old.

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Woman are scrutinized more and we know it. I can't go to a beach and tell you how many fat women are there vs hot women, but I can tell you that women are more conscience of their fat hanging out and are more apt not to go to a pool party, whereas guys have no issue with it typically because no one cares, as you say. They don't care because its more socially acceptable. Plain and simple.

I have to thoroughly disagree. I see plenty of beautiful women in their 30's, 40's and 50's that wear flattering one piece bathing suits and even bikinis without issue.

To contrary, I rarely, if ever, see fat guys walking around in Speedos. Sure, there are overweight men that don't mind going shirtless with board shorts but Speedos?

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Again, I know men have their own issues with body image, vanity etc...but to say its equal is ridiculous.

If you're a "normal" person for your age range, there shouldn't be an issue. If you're obese for your age range, I can understand the body issue but there's nothing wrong with a nice one-piece.

Personally, I think it's more mental than physical. Either your confident in yourself, or you're not.