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Old 09-04-2013, 07:25 PM   #1
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D Bowe is a pretty similar player to Crabtree. Charles is a better pass catcher than Gore, however, you don't have a TE remotely close to Vernon Davis' ability.
Been there, done that, didn't make a bit of difference in the end.
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:25 AM   #2
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I'd say no; simply because of the price of two 2nds.
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:28 AM   #3
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I'd say no; simply because of the price of two 2nds.
at least you think the chiefs will win 8 games.
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:33 AM   #4
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at least you think the chiefs will win 8 games.
I should've also stated that my view was based simply on the stats. If they make it to the AFC Championship game etc, then it's worth it. But, they won't.

I say they're 6-10 / 8-8 team.
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:35 AM   #5
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I should've also stated that my view was based simply on the stats. If they make it to the AFC Championship game etc, then it's worth it. But, they won't.

I say they're 6-10 / 8-8 team.
oh, they aren't making the playoffs if alex smith has those kind of stats. You have to throw a shit ton of short passes to only get 3500 yards. and to complete that little of percentage.

No, no way. no how.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:08 AM   #6
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oh, they aren't making the playoffs if alex smith has those kind of stats. You have to throw a shit ton of short passes to only get 3500 yards. and to complete that little of percentage.

No, no way. no how.
well, Super Bowl QB Trent Dilfer says Hi:

2000 regular season games
11 games played
cmp 134
att 226
cmp% 59.3
YDS 1502
avg 6.65
TD 12
INT 11

2000 Post season
4 games played
cmp 35
att 73
cmp% 47.9
YDS 590
avg 8.08
TD 3
INT 1

granted that Ravens had a champion D, special teams and running game
but still crappy QB can still win a SB if the other parts are there.
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:33 AM   #7
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Who cares about stats?

Because if you only focus on wins, those wins aren't sustainable. It's a sign of a football team getting away with more than they should, and eventually (next year or in the playoffs) that shit usually comes crashing down.

There are very few teams that can win in the playoffs year after year after year and not "look good" on paper.

We don't want 2010 again. 2010 can go **** itself in the eye.
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:55 AM   #8
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with 3500 yds and 25/10 TD/INT, need about 65% completion, imo. 80 QBR would be great, but only 1 QB in the entire NFL (Peyton Manning) bettered that number last year, might be a bit unrealistic.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:23 AM   #9
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with 3500 yds and 25/10 TD/INT, need about 65% completion, imo. 80 QBR would be great, but only 1 QB in the entire NFL (Peyton Manning) bettered that number last year, might be a bit unrealistic.
he's posted 70's QBR the past few seasons -- the WCO is known to sweeten the QBR. Jamaal & Bowe are YAC guys and should actually excel in this scheme. Smiff never had this compliment of playmakers before. I think those are good reasons to expect a peak season from him. we shall see.
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:04 PM   #10
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he's posted 70's QBR the past few seasons -- the WCO is known to sweeten the QBR. Jamaal & Bowe are YAC guys and should actually excel in this scheme. Smiff never had this compliment of playmakers before. I think those are good reasons to expect a peak season from him. we shall see.
Michael Crabtree is a YAC machine. A top 5 wideout in terms of strict YAC ability. The **** are you talking about, idiot?
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:26 PM   #11
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Michael Crabtree is a YAC machine. A top 5 wideout in terms of strict YAC ability. The **** are you talking about, idiot?
Crabtree was last season... was much better in 2012 than 2011... but wasn't really on the map prior to that. Crabtree really did get much better as the years progressed. All he ever had to do was practice with the team and put the work in. He finally began to do that under the Harbaugh regime.
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:30 PM   #12
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Crabtree was last season... was much better in 2012 than 2011... but wasn't really on the map prior to that. Crabtree really did get much better as the years progressed. All he ever had to do was practice with the team and put the work in. He finally began to do that under the Harbaugh regime.
Old fart, I'm not talking to you. You're the same kinda guy that was calling for Crabtree's release while giving years 7 and 8 to your golden boy throwing checkdown after checkdown. So sorry, but your opinion is rather worthless to me.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:04 AM   #13
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3,500 yards - 25 TD - 10 INT - 80 QBR - 56% Completion - and all 16 games started w/no injury

Is that performance worth the two 2nd round picks KC paid?

Also... would those numbers merit a contract extension and he then gets to groom his eventual replacement?
It depends on a variety of factors.

1) How many yards and TDs did KC rush for? If the answer is "top 5 in NFL" the yardage and TD numbers look a little better.

2) What is his third-down conversion percentage?

3) How did he perform against elite defenses? Was he able to challenge them enough downfield to keep the O moving and productive?

4) How many PPG did the Chiefs' offense produce (and does it include a fluky-high number of return TDs?)

5) How did the team perform in the playoffs (if it made it)? Did Alex Smith make plays in clutch situations to beat elite teams and elite defenses when it mattered?
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:37 AM   #14
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:41 AM   #15
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throwing for 3,500 yards doesn't mean anything anymore...it would put him 18th between Rivers and Fitzpatrick

but throwing for 3,500 yards with such a terrible completion percentage is 'almost' impossible...noticeable exceptions: Luck and Freeman (but both were over 4,000)

and i have no idea why we'd want smith tutoring anyone..."Hey, kid, when in doubt take a sack...and always look at the rush so that you can't make a play down field"
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