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Old 11-22-2019, 01:49 PM   #1
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It's easily at a working class price point? I don't understand. I think for some guy named Leroy from Harrisonville he will call it gay and stuff, but eventually they will adopt it due to the sheer value it adds to their lives. But my guess is they will really succeed in the commercial vehicle market.
It has my full attention. Place my 2500 body on that drivetrain and I will have damn near the perfect work vehicle.

I will have to see how they hold value before committing since I trade in new every 2 years.
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Old 11-22-2019, 02:06 PM   #2
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It has my full attention. Place my 2500 body on that drivetrain and I will have damn near the perfect work vehicle.

I will have to see how they hold value before committing since I trade in new every 2 years.
You better see how they hold up before you buy one.
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Old 11-22-2019, 01:47 PM   #3
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Old 11-22-2019, 02:32 PM   #4
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If there is enough room in that bed for about 4 100watt solar panels so I can stop and recharge during daylight, I guess I have found my apocalyptic bugout vehicle!
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Old 11-22-2019, 02:37 PM   #5
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Old 11-22-2019, 02:43 PM   #6
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Wonder how much Musk is saving on production by just having to bend steel for body panels rather than truly having to tool body panels for styling? Then again material costs might make the cost savings on the simplistic design of the body moot.
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Old 11-23-2019, 05:29 PM   #7
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If there is enough room in that bed for about 4 100watt solar panels so I can stop and recharge during daylight, I guess I have found my apocalyptic bugout vehicle!
Sounds like they'll offer a version where the "vault" tonneau cover has solar and can get you an additional 15 miles per day.

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Old 11-23-2019, 05:40 PM   #8
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Sounds like they'll offer a version where the "vault" tonneau cover has solar and can get you an additional 15 miles per day.

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15 doesn't sound worth the cost and trouble to me.
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Old 11-23-2019, 06:04 PM   #9
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15 doesn't sound worth the cost and trouble to me.
Agreed. It's for the "why don't they just..." crowd and preppers.

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Old 11-22-2019, 02:37 PM   #10
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I just bought a new truck after some asshole rear-ended me and twisted the frame on my old one. I had a Toyota Tacoma. 15 years and 300,000 miles. Just got another Toyota because they are extremely reliable.

Would I have purchased the Tesla? Doubtful:

1. it's ugly as sin. I just don't like it
2. I wonder about the range
3. Electric cars do not do as well in the cold and Alaska gets cold (although not this year)
4. I wonder how Tesla as a company will do. If the company goes under, where does one get parts, service, etc.? I keep reading that they have yet to turn a profit and that makes me reluctant to buy one of their vehicles
5. I realize I'm just an old fart who doesn't trust these new-fangled things.

The concept is interesting and in a few years might be worth while but I've learned from computers that its best to wait a bit and get the bugs and kinks worked out.
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Old 11-22-2019, 02:53 PM   #11
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3. Electric cars do not do as well in the cold and Alaska gets cold (although not this year)
Is that true? I had a Chevy Volt and it was exceptional in cold weather, both for running well and for driving in snow and ice. Is that something for which Chevy was just more successful than other electric manufacturers?
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Is that true? I had a Chevy Volt and it was exceptional in cold weather, both for running well and for driving in snow and ice. Is that something for which Chevy was just more successful than other electric manufacturers?
They operate fine, but your range is usually reduced since producing heat is actually pretty battery intensive. Think electric space heater. I probably lose 20% of my range on really cold days in my Leaf.
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:20 PM   #13
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They operate fine, but your range is usually reduced since producing heat is actually pretty battery intensive. Think electric space heater. I probably lose 20% of my range on really cold days in my Leaf.
This is my understanding. And while winters here have not been as bad the last couple of years, I have seen several winters where it did not hit 0 for weeks on end. My concern has been that even if I kept my truck in the garage (I don't*), that truck sits outside while I'm at work all day. And it doesn't take long at -30 for anything to get really cold.

*Like all good Alaskans, I have a block heater in my engine that I plug in at night. It's why you see rows of electrical outlets in pictures of Fairbanks. The plug is a little heating coil that keeps the engine block warm, or at least warm for the temperatures, so oil isn't as thick, starting is easier and the engine gets to operating temperature faster.
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:29 PM   #14
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This is my understanding. And while winters here have not been as bad the last couple of years, I have seen several winters where it did not hit 0 for weeks on end. My concern has been that even if I kept my truck in the garage (I don't*), that truck sits outside while I'm at work all day. And it doesn't take long at -30 for anything to get really cold.

*Like all good Alaskans, I have a block heater in my engine that I plug in at night. It's why you see rows of electrical outlets in pictures of Fairbanks. The plug is a little heating coil that keeps the engine block warm, or at least warm for the temperatures, so oil isn't as thick, starting is easier and the engine gets to operating temperature faster.
If I may ask, where do you live in Alaska?
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Old 11-22-2019, 07:21 PM   #15
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Is that true? I had a Chevy Volt and it was exceptional in cold weather, both for running well and for driving in snow and ice. Is that something for which Chevy was just more successful than other electric manufacturers?
Absolutely. I have a Model S and the efficiency of the battery is reduced up to 25% in the winter. But if you have a long range 500 mile battery that is still more than enough distance, and even more distance than you can go in most trucks on a tank of gas.

Much better efficiency in the summer and on longer trips in my experience.
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