Madden 25 Release tonight

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Here's the problem with the Zone Read in Madden as I see it - the pain isn't high enough.

In other words, the reason the NFL hasn't adopted the Zone-Read across the board is not because it isn't effective (because it can be brutally so), but because they can't get getting QBs massacred.

If I run RGIII or Kaepernick or even a moderate athlete like Tannehill or Rodgers out there to run the ZR 40 times/gm, sure, it's going to be pretty dangerous - until he dies.

And in Madden it doesn't matter, the QB dies and you hit re-set. But in real life the consequences are obviously far more dire.

I really think Madden should do something to dissuade the ZR in the game because the reality of a 16 week NFL season precludes the mass installment of the ZR in the league.

In NCAA 14....they install it in EVERY playbook and QBs that have no business running it....will run it 10-15 times a game.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Here's the problem with the Zone Read in Madden as I see it - the pain isn't high enough.

In other words, the reason the NFL hasn't adopted the Zone-Read across the board is not because it isn't effective (because it can be brutally so), but because they can't get getting QBs massacred.

If I run RGIII or Kaepernick or even a moderate athlete like Tannehill or Rodgers out there to run the ZR 40 times/gm, sure, it's going to be pretty dangerous - until he dies.

And in Madden it doesn't matter, the QB dies and you hit re-set. But in real life the consequences are obviously far more dire.

I really think Madden should do something to dissuade the ZR in the game because the reality of a 16 week NFL season precludes the mass installment of the ZR in the league.

It seems impossible to completely stop the zone read in pick-up games because, like you said, you can just press restart and everyone is back to normal- as it should be in a pick-up game. I like that they have the stamina bar now that seems to affect a ball carrier's injury and carry rating when it's depleted. I think the only more realistic thing they could add is a "wear and tear" rating for franchise mode. So if you decide to run with guys like RGIII and Kaepernick, those hits start to add up over time and negatively affect the player's injury ratings. So, for instance, say you draft a QB with 89 speed and want to run with him. He starts out with a 98 injury rating when first drafted, but by year 3 of having 100+ carries, his injury rating has nosedived to 63.. Or something like that.

Other than that, it would be cool to also see the bullrush and spin move added for passrushers. You never see that and that would add a whole new dynamic to the game. I never thought about that until someone mentioned it earlier but that would be cool as hell.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Here's the problem with the Zone Read in Madden as I see it - the pain isn't high enough.

In other words, the reason the NFL hasn't adopted the Zone-Read across the board is not because it isn't effective (because it can be brutally so), but because they can't get getting QBs massacred.

If I run RGIII or Kaepernick or even a moderate athlete like Tannehill or Rodgers out there to run the ZR 40 times/gm, sure, it's going to be pretty dangerous - until he dies.

And in Madden it doesn't matter, the QB dies and you hit re-set. But in real life the consequences are obviously far more dire.

I really think Madden should do something to dissuade the ZR in the game because the reality of a 16 week NFL season precludes the mass installment of the ZR in the league.

I used to edit injury ratings across the board to make injuries more realistic in Madden.

Guessing you can't do that in the wonderful modern Madden, though.

[lcarus]

Ok I finally played the game last night. Started a Chiefs franchise and am 1-1. Beat Jax and lost to Dallas because Avery fumbled the game away.

Anyway, I think I like it more than last years. It's pretty much the same, but new animations thrown in there, some other minor tweaks.

Playing All Madden. Playing defense is pretty hard. Stopping the opposing offense is really difficult so far. I had 0 problems last year with the Chiefs defense shutting down my opponent. The only thing that was occasionally hard to stop was the run game (due to RBs being able to break 12 tackles in a row consistently). Now I'm finding it impossible to stop the pass. Likewise, I can't be stopped on offense. I can pass all day on the computer. Running is harder than it was last year so far. RBs don't accelerate quite as fast it seems. Which I guess is good, because I was breaking long TDs with Charles wayyyy too often last year.

[Thig Lyfe]

Who the hell has time to play 15 minute quarters?

[royr17]

could anybody on here post some good sliders for me to use on all-madden, played a game against the packers last night with a slider set that i found on operation sports forum and i beat the packers 68-48.

wanna play a game where its not so easy.

[lcarus]

I gotta say though, Alex Smith is pretty good in the game. Shit ton better than the puke sandwich we had in last years game.

[Mav]

Mav's Sim Sliders:

I start with the All Madden difficulty, should have pretty much all of users at 25.

Player Skill

QB Accuracy - 40
Pass Blocking - 40
WR Catching - 40
Run Blocking - 50
Fumbles - 50
PD Reaction Time - 60
Interceptions -30
Pass Covererage - 60
Tackling - 50


CPU Skill

QB Accuracy - 45
Pass Blocking - 50
WR Catching - 40
Run Blocking - 50
Fumbles - 50
PD Reaction Time - 60
Interceptions - 40
Pass Covererage - 60
Tackling - 50

The rest I have left alone for now.

[Thig Lyfe]

Seriously, everything takes so damn long in this game

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe

Seriously, everything takes so damn long in this game

It was worse last year by a lot. Had to get taken through that series of tubes like 4 times before you could start the game.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe

Seriously, everything takes so damn long in this game

Nothing will touch ps2 madden. Madden 08 on the pc is similar to ps2 and it has online play with updated rosters. I need to get into this...

http://www.maddenpcnetwork.com/

[Buck]

Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe

Seriously, everything takes so damn long in this game

This has me wondering if the next gen is going to be optimized for SSDs if you wanna swap on in.

[Rasputin]

Would I be better off buying last years edition and save a few bucks?

Is it any better than last years to make it worth going out and get? I'd have to make roster and coach changes but for game play experience is it any better?

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Would I be better off buying last years edition and save a few bucks?

Is it any better than last years to make it worth going out and get? I'd have to make roster and coach changes but for game play experience is it any better?

IMO no. They took out import a draft class that was stupid.

[Thig Lyfe]

Okay, so I finally played a full game, and it was pretty fun. Won a thriller in the final moments. But so much about this game is irritating as hell.

The commentary is awful. There's barely any of it, and the shit they do say is vague, pointless, and boring.

The presentation is stuttery and awkward. The camera lingers on nothing before slowly cutting to another equally useless angle.

There's apparently ZERO logic involved in picking the "play of the game." My play of the game was the Jaguars scoring a TD in the second quarter. Of a game I won. By scoring a touchdown with 4 seconds left on the clock. Stupid. As. ****.

UGH