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Old 12-17-2007, 11:14 AM  
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Explain to me why we need to give Herm more time
After seeing my worst fears come true in Herm with the Jetsification of the Chiefs (a top 5 draft pick) and the destruction of a team. I wonder in this microwave world of instant gratification how is it we cling to the notion 2 years doesn't set a trend especially giving his previous body of work. So I thought well surely 2 years must be handed out like candy in the past to any head coach and then it occurred to me to check the Chiefs history to confirm this.

Chiefs Head Coaches with shortest tenures:

Tom Bettis - 1977
Frank Gansz - 1987-1988
Gunther Cunningham - 1999-2000
Paul Wiggin - 1975-1977
John Mackovic - 1983-1986

Thats half of the Chiefs Head Coaches in the history of this team. 3 of them are 2 years or less. So in the present world why not cut ties with Herm. Actually excluding Herm 33% of Chiefs coaches have had a tenure of 2 years or less. And yes I know Bettis is a bad choice. Still 2 years of Herm like performance has cost coaches their jobs in the past.

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Old 12-18-2007, 10:49 AM   #136
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Ed, you may be a nice guy but week after week, all you bring is hate.

And no insight or knowledge.
I am smart enough to avoid pissing in the wind.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:52 AM   #137
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Yep, have you watched the Redskins offense the last two weeks? Collins has played both of the last two games. Very solid, made me long for days gone by.
While two weeks isn't enough to build a case for Saunders (via Collins vs. Campbell), it will be interesting to watch for the rest of the season. For those that are trying to make a case for the Skins offense and against Saunders. Nobody is saying Saunders is a great OC...but he does run a particular system very well.

Having said that, regardless of the whole cast's talent level, does the Skins' offensive line have pulling/athletic guards and tackles or is it more of a traditional big-line? I've always contended that Saunders/Vermeil offense simply doesn't work without those pull/athletic guys...regardless of the rest of the cast.
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:34 AM   #138
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Yep, have you watched the Redskins offense the last two weeks? Collins has played both of the last two games. Very solid, made me long for days gone by.
Todd Collins was 8 of 25 for 166 yards Sunday night.

You long for those days?

All right.
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:40 AM   #139
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LOL @ people pining for Todd Collins. Hey, what's Elvis Grbac doing?
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Old 12-18-2007, 12:26 PM   #140
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Herm driving me insane at today's presser.

"I came from a family where my daddy tole me stuff and I always tell the players this; when you're going downtown and you're eating yogurt and you spill some yogurt on your shirt, you got to turn that shirt inside out 'cause you don't want to be goin' downtown with that yogurt on the outside, now. Not on that outside. So, I tell them turn that shirt inside out and get it right. Now you spill that yogurt on that shirt after you turned it inside out you got a problem now, 'cause right now the fans understand that we got a lot of guys with a lot of yogurt on their shirt."

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Old 12-18-2007, 12:26 PM   #141
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Herm Edwards as a person is top notch. What he does for the kids in his hometown and the KC area reflect his vision to help people and their families. Absolutely AWESOME.

Now, as a head coach thats another story as most people feel at this point in his tenure. Anyone with half a sense of football knowledge and watch this team play on Sunday can see all manner of mistakes,problems, miscues, etc,etc..... this is reflective of the HC. From day one, we've seen it, hardknocks, preseason, reg season. How much more of these mistakes must we endure? How freakin' hard is it to teach tackling? Skip a "jacked-up" hit for espn!! Just tackle the guy!! KC fans have waited long enough! Empty the seats and send a clear message to this administration. We are TIRED of this shit. We deserve better. CLEAN HOUSE NOW
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Old 12-18-2007, 04:00 PM   #142
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Also Chris Cooley ain't no elite TE, there are at least 5 better ones, if not more.
Chris Cooley is officially a Pro-Bowler.

But I guess he's not elite?

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Old 12-18-2007, 05:10 PM   #143
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Herm driving me insane at today's presser.

"I came from a family where my daddy tole me stuff and I always tell the players this; when you're going downtown and you're eating yogurt and you spill some yogurt on your shirt, you got to turn that shirt inside out 'cause you don't want to be goin' downtown with that yogurt on the outside, now. Not on that outside. So, I tell them turn that shirt inside out and get it right. Now you spill that yogurt on that shirt after you turned it inside out you got a problem now, 'cause right now the fans understand that we got a lot of guys with a lot of yogurt on their shirt."

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You cant be serious, tell me this is another work from your ethereal & eclectic mind.

If true...wow...thats bad, thats something from a sports/comedy flic bad.

I hope he's making more sense in the lockerroom.
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Old 12-18-2007, 05:29 PM   #144
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Chris Cooley is officially a Pro-Bowler.

But I guess he's not elite?

Conference........outside of Witten the other top TE's are in the AFC.
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Old 12-18-2007, 05:33 PM   #145
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Old 12-18-2007, 05:41 PM   #146
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Conference........outside of Witten the other top TE's are in the AFC.
Dude, you are so out of your element.

Dave Lane was incorrect in stating that Washington has NO talent on the offense. I stated not only do the Redskins have a more talented receiving core, equal to or better than running backs, better QB depth, and extremely superior offensive line (Samuels made the Pro Bowl today for the 5th time), I also stated that Cooley is an elite tight end.

Dave doesn't know WTF he's talking about in regards to the Redskins offensive talent level.

And apparently, you can't admit when you're wrong. You're always making ridiculous claims (Allen isn't any good, Hali sucks and other BS), you can't even admit it when faced with FACTS.
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Old 12-18-2007, 05:43 PM   #147
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Dane can keep taking what I said and blowing it to a completely different level, it's amusing. But hell everyone else does it too.
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Old 12-18-2007, 05:45 PM   #148
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Dane can keep taking what I said and blowing it to a completely different level, it's amusing. But hell everyone else does it too.
If that's your response, then apparently, everything you say here should be taken with a grain of salt.

You're not even man enough to admit when you're wrong. Why would anyone give you props if you were EVER to be correct?
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Old 12-18-2007, 05:46 PM   #149
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If that's your response, then apparently, everything you say here should be taken with a grain of salt.

You're not even man enough to admit when you're wrong. Why would anyone give you props if you were EVER to be correct?
Coming from you, that is pure gold.
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Coming from you, that is pure gold.

Thank you. I'm glad you feel that way.

If, as you say, everyone else feels that way, shouldn't that tell you something?
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