Chiefs Chiefs Going 3-4 -Adam Shefters Blog - Page 10

DaWolf · 02-18-2009, 02:20 PM

First of all, until we hear it from the horse's mouth I'm not going to get too worked up over this.

Second, I don't understand what all the fretting is about. This defense has sucked for the better part of a decade and hasn't won a championship for over 30 years. So if they want to implement a 3-4 after a 2-14 year where we recorded 10 sacks, I'm not going to worry about us having the personnel or not because, frankly, we need a heck of a lot of new personnel no matter what defense we employ, so might as well get a head start...

jiveturkey · 02-18-2009, 02:26 PM

Why is height so important for a 3-4 DE?

**Mr. Kotter** · 02-18-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jiveturkey

Why is height so important for a 3-4 DE?

Because smaller DEs can get swallowed up but the tackles in the NFL...UNLESS they are freakish athletes.

See Freeney vs Hali, as evidence. Freeney is freakish; Hali, not so much.

Hali would have to try OLB in a 3-4; depending on speed/quickness he could do it with strong safety support.

soundmind · 02-18-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

First of all, until we hear it from the horse's mouth I'm not going to get too worked up over this.

Second, I don't understand what all the fretting is about. This defense has sucked for the better part of a decade and hasn't won a championship for over 30 years. So if they want to implement a 3-4 after a 2-14 year where we recorded 10 sacks, I'm not going to worry about us having the personnel or not because, frankly, we need a heck of a lot of new personnel no matter what defense we employ, so might as well get a head start...

Now's as good a time as any, and as long as the league shifting toward passing offenses, I'm all for the 3-4. But in that same vein, we need talent for whatever we run.

missinDThomas · 02-18-2009, 02:19 PM

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...t_the_deal_is/

wilfork is trippin because of the Cassel deal.....maybe Pioli can scoop him up

Coogs · 02-18-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

One year after becoming Kansas City’s top pick, there now are questions about Dorsey’s role.

Didn't Shefter get the memo from Zombi? There will be no questions under the Patriot Way!

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-18-2009, 02:49 PM

Gibbs ran a 4-3 in New Orleans.
Pendergast ran a 4-3 in Arizona before Whisenhunt made him switch.

Dorsey was a top five pick and the consensus #1 player in the draft last year, and doesn't fit in a 3-4 whatsoever.

Combine that with the shitiful nature of the two above coaches in their last coordinating stints, and if this is true, it says a lot about how goddamned incompetently this franchise is still being run.

BigChiefFan · 02-18-2009, 02:49 PM

I've always thought Raji was the pick. Some don't like the pick, but I think he has PB potential and would be thrilled with drafting him.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-18-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I've always thought Raji was the pick. Some don't like the pick, but I think he has PB potential and would be thrilled with drafting him.

Because dropping 100 million dollars on the defensive tackle position is an intelligent way to build a team.

Chiefnj2 · 02-18-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Because dropping 100 million dollars on the defensive tackle position is an intelligent way to build a team.

If the Chiefs took Sanchez or Stafford this year and the kid ended up being a bust and 3 years from now took another top flight QB would you complain about tying up 100 million in QB's?

beach tribe · 02-18-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

If the Chiefs took Sanchez or Stafford this year and the kid ended up being a bust and 3 years from now took another top flight QB would you complain about tying up 100 million in QB's?

That would be taking a qb every 4th year. Not two DT in in 2 years in the top 5.

I wish they would just work this shit out with these rookie contracts. It's the only thing that football has WRONG.

Chiefnj2 · 02-18-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

That would be taking a qb every 4th year. Not two DT in in 2 years in the top 5.

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Jax took Stroud and Henderson in the top 15 in consecutive years.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-18-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

If the Chiefs took Sanchez or Stafford this year and the kid ended up being a bust and 3 years from now took another top flight QB would you complain about tying up 100 million in QB's?

Why would you judge a "bust" QB after 3 years?

And yes, the Chargers did it after 4 years, so what's your point?

Chiefnj2 · 02-18-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Why would you judge a "bust" QB after 3 years?

And yes, the Chargers did it after 4 years, so what's your point?

Try to follow along, people don't think X dollars should be tied up in a certain position. I was wondering if it applied to QB's.

BigChiefFan · 02-18-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Because dropping 100 million dollars on the defensive tackle position is an intelligent way to build a team.

I can think of worse ways to do it.

Also if we move to a 3-4, which I believe we will, that money would be used on a dominant NOSE TACKLE and a DE. I put a premium on the lines and don't think it's unwise to become more stout upfront, regardless of scheme.

I'm not in the QB or bust mode like many of you all are. Yes, we absolutely need one(or three

), but I don't believe Sanchez is our guy, at least not with our 1st overall pick.

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DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	First of all, until we hear it from the horse's mouth I'm not going to get too worked up over this. Second, I don't understand what all the fretting is about. This defense has sucked for the better part of a decade and hasn't won a championship for over 30 years. So if they want to implement a 3-4 after a 2-14 year where we recorded 10 sacks, I'm not going to worry about us having the personnel or not because, frankly, we need a heck of a lot of new personnel no matter what defense we employ, so might as well get a head start...
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