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Old 02-28-2009, 01:32 PM  
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We may as well have an easy point of reference for people to be able to come back and eat their crow when this all pans out. Everyone always says I knew it all along. Step up and put it down.

I don't think a 2nd round pick is terrible, but I don't think Matt Cassel will pan out in KC. I'll put it down right here, right now. And now I'll start praying I'm wrong.

Forget the trade. The only thing I want you to commit too is whether or not Cassel is a good or bad choice for QBOTF.
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:40 PM   #136
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Once again, Stafford wasn't an option. He's going to Detroit.
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:41 PM   #137
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Because Sanchez/Stafford have significantly more upside than Cassel.

Those who are against the trade are against it for that reason. It's not that we overpaid for Matt Cassel. It's a fine trade for pick value. But if we pass up one of those two, especially Stafford, it's going to haunt us for a long, long time.
Well, let's tally it up:

1) Mass-hiring of bottom-feeder coaching/coords.

2) Yesterday's geezer signing/trade.

3) Trade for Cassell.

"I believe that's three," said the Umpire.

Let's get Pioli one of those nifty "Safety First" signs to hang on his office door!
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:42 PM   #138
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Once again, Stafford wasn't an option. He's going to Detroit.
And Quinn was a lock for Cleveland at 3. You never know.
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Because Sanchez/Stafford have significantly more upside than Cassel.

Those who are against the trade are against it for that reason. It's not that we overpaid for Matt Cassel. It's a fine trade for pick value. But if we pass up one of those two, especially Stafford, it's going to haunt us for a long, long time.
And I don't understand why you're so convinced of this. Because arm strength defines a quarterback? I don't get this. Will Stafford ever be able to lead an NFL team--the big knock on Harrington is that he didn't have that? Will he have the work ethic to not only work just as hard as NFL quarterbacks, but work as hard as guys like Peyton and Brady who obsess about the film room--I would argue most QBs fail for this reason? He has a LOT to prove.

I don't understand why you believe a draft position defines a player 5 years down the road. Who cares how Cassel was evaluated in the draft? Pioli has watched him for 5 years in practice and in games. He obviously really likes the kid. And in the intangibles that you seem to think are completely unimportant like leadership and work ethic, he scores off the charts. His teammates love him and it is well documented that the guy works ridiculously hard on learning the game.

You are basing upside purely on draft position and the ability to throw the deep ball. Because apart from those two attributes, I don't understand where you think a guy (especially Sanchez) rates better.
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One is the worst run franchise in professional sports, and the other is from a franchise whose GM is from a clique more insular than the mother****ing Skull & Bones.
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And Quinn was a lock for Cleveland at 3. You never know.
Pioli still had to make this trade under the reasonable assumption that Stafford won't be there. Cassel/Sanchez is the comparison that should be made.
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Pioli still had to make this trade under the reasonable assumption that Stafford won't be there. Cassel/Sanchez is the comparison that should be made.
And I take Sanchez.
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I think he plays decent, but never becomes our franchise guy. A young Kerry Collins with less arm is what I see.
Did you watch the throws he made last year?
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You are basing upside purely on draft position and the ability to throw the deep ball. Because apart from those two attributes, I don't understand where you think a guy (especially Sanchez) rates better.
Do you even know what Sanchez's greatest attributes are?
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And I take Sanchez.

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And I take Sanchez.
Based on age, or what factors do you think Sanchez would be better in the Chiefs situation?
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Do you even know what Sanchez's greatest attributes are?
Maybe we don't know everything about him. Please fill us in on his attributes. All I know is that when a former NFL coach tells you that you're not ready for the NFL then I would probably listen to him. Sanchez knew that the QB class was weak and left becuase he'd be the 1st or 2nd QB taken.
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Maybe we don't know everything about him. Please fill us in on his attributes. All I know is that when a former NFL coach tells you that you're not ready for the NFL then I would probably listen to him. Sanchez knew that the QB class was weak and left becuase he'd be the 1st or 2nd QB taken.
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