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Quesadilla Joe · 07-12-2009, 03:27 PM

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Replacing Gonzalez proving to be a chore in K.C.
Posted July 11, 2009 @ 6:50 p.m.
By Michael Blunda

Nobody in the Chiefs' organization thought it would be easy to replace departed TE Tony Gonzalez, a 10-time Pro Bowler and surefire Hall of Famer, but they probably didn’t think it would be this difficult, either. In one of the more surprising developments of the team’s recent minicamp, head coach Todd Haley declared the competition for the starting tight end job wide open, dispelling the widely believed thought that the spot belonged to Brad Cottam. From what we hear, Cottam, a 2008 third-round pick by the Chiefs and the favorite to capture the job, struggled mightily during offseason workouts, frequently dropping catchable passes. His failure to seize the opportunity has opened the door for others — like veterans Sean Ryan and Tony Curtis and seventh-round rookie Jake O’Connell — to enter the mix for starting duties. Although the Chiefs aren’t expected to utilize their tight ends as receivers very often, the offense would be lacking without a skilled pass catcher at that spot. Thus far, Cottam has “dropped the ball.”

Micjones · 07-12-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Did he and Leggitt come at the same time?

2008 was the first season for both Leggett and Bradley, so yes.

RustShack · 07-12-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Did he and Leggitt come at the same time?

Legget came as an undrafted free agent a few years ago.. we picked Bradly up during the season last year..

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-12-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

You can't double team Bowe with Jones on the other side.
Well you could, but you'd get gouged by Jones and Engram.

Precisely!

Halfcan · 07-12-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

OK we trade a 2nd round pick, we get a franchise QB in his 20's AND a seasoned veteran who is one of the best at his position in a scheme we are switching to.

We trade an old TE for a second round pick, TE is also a position of little value and even less in our new scheme considering we won't use it very often.

QB has a lot more value that TE, LB is also more valuable not to mention BOTH. Gonzalez himself didn't even think anyone would trade a 2nd round pick for him.

Engram brings exactly the same thing Gonzalez does, just at a position our new offense will utilize.

Engram=TG??? really I think the stats would disagree.

Mecca · 07-12-2009, 10:23 PM

Um Matt Jones isn't even good.

Micjones · 07-12-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Engram=TG??? really I think the stats would disagree.

I think he means that Engram's hands are just as reliable.
And I agree... I just think he plays a different position, the slot, and won't give us the kind of everydown contribution that Gonzalez did.

Micjones · 07-12-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Um Matt Jones isn't even good.

He's plenty #2 WR good. And if he joined the team he'd be our 2nd best WR in the time it took him to pick his jersey number.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-12-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Legget came as an undrafted free agent a few years ago.. we picked Bradly up during the season last year..

No shit? I guess the vets were keeping him on the bench.

Mecca · 07-12-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

He's plenty #2 WR good.

If you can't make it as a WR in Jacksonville you are not good.

RustShack · 07-12-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Engram=TG??? really I think the stats would disagree.

Gonzo does basically what Engram does from another position. Neither are deep threats, they are sure hands when you need it in the middle of the field. If Engram was always on a poor team where he was forced to be to top threat then the stats would agree.

Micjones · 07-12-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If you can't make it as a WR in Jacksonville you are not good.

Jones' lot in JAX wasn't solely based on performance. He was their best WR with a bullet last year.

Do you honestly think that a WR who snags 65 balls and racks up 700+ receiving yards doesn't provide protection for Bowe?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-12-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Um Matt Jones isn't even good.

Is he "I'd rather rape myself with a toilet brush"-bad?

RustShack · 07-12-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

No shit? I guess the vets were keeping him on the bench.

What the **** are you even talking about with him?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-12-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

What the **** are you even talking about with him?

Well, if he came a few years ago, I never noticed him starting until last year.

Mecca · 07-12-2009, 10:32 PM

I'm also not a big fan of signing guys who get busted for snorting coke in their car.

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