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**Rain Man** · 05:36 PM

A Charles Manson reference in another thread got me thinking about this. Who is the greatest villain in American history, the one that will draw the most ire from any right-thinking American?

Give me some options and I'll put up a poll. Nominees can come from any category: war, politics, crime, business, finance, celebrity, sports, child care, Benetton models, comic strip artists (Bil Keane, anyone?), or others. Give me your best shot.

The rules:

1. We're talking true villainy here. Villainy where you can't really defend anything the person did at a dinner party without getting winces.

2. We're talking national scale. Remember, the kicker that shall go unnamed is a hero in Indianapolis.

3. Real life only. While many may villainize Elmer Fudd for his relentless and brazen murderous stalking of Bugs Bunny, Mr. Fudd does not actually exist, and therefore any villainous acts committed by Mr. Fudd do not exist, either.

4. The villain must be an American citizen, or if their villainy took place before 1783, a resident of the area that would eventually become the United State AND acting against the United States for villainous reasons rather than sincere loyalty to another country in conflict with nascent American liberty movements or peoples and in the absence of a history of loyalty to American causes.

Once I get 20 reasonable candidates, I'll post the poll.

Ponder · 09-01-2009, 06:45 AM

The guy who laced the TYlenol capsules with cyanide. Every time you have to go to extreme measures to tear into a pill bottle, a bottle of water or a package of candy, you have him to thank. Not a real nomination, since they never caught him, but I've always thought he was one of the most influential people in the world.

Red Beans · 09-01-2009, 06:52 AM

Jason Whitlock...his writing is criminal.

Inspector · 09-01-2009, 07:01 AM

Elmer Fudd.

(I'm lousy with directions BTW)

Kylo Ren · 09-01-2009, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

The nominations I'm accepting so far are:

O.J. Simpson
Bernie Madoff
Timothy McVeigh
Ted Bundy
John Wilkes Booth
The BTK Killer
Benedict Arnold
Jeffrey Dahmer
Andrea Yates
Joseph McCarthy
The Unabomber
Karla Faye Tucker
Lizzie Borden
Charles Manson
David Berkowitz (Son of Sam)
John Wayne Gacy
The Zodiac Killer
The Green River Killer
Jim Jones
James Earl Ray
Ed Gein
Robert Courtney
Boss Tweed
Al Capone
Billy The Kid
Jesse James
Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker
Leona Helmsley
John Dillinger
Fred Phelps
Robert E. Lee
Mark Chapman
Al Capone
David Koresh
Bryant and May
Blanck and Harris

I'll also add:

Lee Harvey Oswald
Julius and Ethel Rosenburg
Nathan Bedford Forrest
Robert Hanssen
Aldrich Ames
John Walker
Kenneth Lay
Bernie Ebbers
Joseph Hazelwood

Anyone got others to add? Or did I miss any realistic options offered earlier?

Barack freaking Obama! Put him on the list!

MOhillbilly · 09-01-2009, 07:51 AM

True evil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottis_Toole

MOhillbilly · 09-01-2009, 07:57 AM

**** that Robert E. Lee shit. Might as well put Sherman on the list. ****in yanks.

Demonpenz · 09-01-2009, 07:59 AM

Ray Kroc

MOhillbilly · 09-01-2009, 08:07 AM

John Brown.

Demonpenz · 09-01-2009, 08:10 AM

christopher columbus

Demonpenz · 09-01-2009, 08:11 AM

pauly shore

whoman69 · 09-01-2009, 08:18 AM

I'll get some google searches going:

Leon Czolgosz
Charles J. Guiteau

Crush · 09-01-2009, 08:46 AM

Wayne Bent
Marshall Applewhite
Jim Jones
David Koresh

**CosmicPal** · 09-01-2009, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz

Did anyone say Hitler?

Not an American

**CosmicPal** · 09-01-2009, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

christopher columbus

Not an American

Frazod · 09-01-2009, 08:54 AM

Benedict Arnold.

08-31-2009, 05:15 PM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-682449 VARSITY	Who is the greatest American villain? A Charles Manson reference in another thread got me thinking about this. Who is the greatest villain in American history, the one that will draw the most ire from any right-thinking American? Give me some options and I'll put up a poll. Nominees can come from any category: war, politics, crime, business, finance, celebrity, sports, child care, Benetton models, comic strip artists (Bil Keane, anyone?), or others. Give me your best shot. The rules: 1. We're talking true villainy here. Villainy where you can't really defend anything the person did at a dinner party without getting winces. 2. We're talking national scale. Remember, the kicker that shall go unnamed is a hero in Indianapolis. 3. Real life only. While many may villainize Elmer Fudd for his relentless and brazen murderous stalking of Bugs Bunny, Mr. Fudd does not actually exist, and therefore any villainous acts committed by Mr. Fudd do not exist, either. 4. The villain must be an American citizen, or if their villainy took place before 1783, a resident of the area that would eventually become the United State AND acting against the United States for villainous reasons rather than sincere loyalty to another country in conflict with nascent American liberty movements or peoples and in the absence of a history of loyalty to American causes. Once I get 20 reasonable candidates, I'll post the poll. Last edited by Rain Man; 08-31-2009 at 05:36 PM..
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09-01-2009, 06:45 AM	#136
Ponder Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Casino cash: $9928612	The guy who laced the TYlenol capsules with cyanide. Every time you have to go to extreme measures to tear into a pill bottle, a bottle of water or a package of candy, you have him to thank. Not a real nomination, since they never caught him, but I've always thought he was one of the most influential people in the world.
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