Chiefs Whitlock: Chiefs should thank anyone who sat through this game - Page 10

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-13-2009, 11:27 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/1629259.html

By JASON WHITLOCK
The Kansas City Star

The “process” has entered the pandering phase.

That’s the only explanation for Chiefs coach Todd Haley opening his postgame news conference with a disingenuous thank you to the 30,000-plus Chiefs fans who filled 80,000-seat Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday.

“Before I get started,” Haley said in the aftermath of Kansas City’s 10th loss, a 16-10 snoozer to the Buffalo Bills, “publicly I want to thank the fans. I thought the fans were tremendous for us today.”

Yes, this is the “process” to avoiding a blackout next Sunday.

In the minutes after Kansas City’s $63 million QB launched his fourth interception of the day, misfired on two more open deep balls and was caught by CBS television cameras telling someone — maybe booing Chiefs fans or Haley barking in his headset — to shut the (expletive) up, Haley campaigned for ticket sales.

“I just publicly want to thank the fans for making a lot of noise for us today,” Haley said.

The boos were quite loud. And the silence was deafening at times. I can’t really blame the fans.

Kansas City’s off-the-street receivers — Chris Chambers, Bobby Wade and Lance Long — were as bad as quarterback Matt Cassel, who early in the game overthrew a wide-open Mark Bradley twice.

Chambers dropped a critical pass along the goal line late in the fourth quarter, got flagged for a holding penalty on the same drive and got his hands on a ball that was tipped and intercepted in the fourth quarter.

Compared with Chambers, Wade had an awesome game. His most noteworthy screwup came on the last play of the third quarter when he inexplicably failed to field a punt that eventually traveled 73 yards before being stopped at the KC 7.

As for Long, well, the Bills brutalized “Wes Welker Lite,” smacking him around on several kickoff returns and turning his two receptions into negative-yardage plays.

Oh, and the Chiefs’ defense gave up 200 rushing yards and Haley continued to play a losing game of rock-paper-scissors with fourth-and-short decisions. Do I need to mention that in a close game against the league’s worst rushing defense the Chiefs threw the ball 43 times and ran it 26?

Is it fair to criticize Haley for wanting to feed Cassel? The Sixty Million Dollar Man’s QB rating jumped 21 points from last week to an astronomical 35.4, and Jamaal Charles picked up only 143 yards in 20 carries.

We talking ’bout progress, man. Not da playoffs. We talking ’bout progress.

Progress isn’t happening. Pandering is.

When this nightmare of a game ended, someone told Haley the most important thing to do was thank the limited number of fans who enthusiastically booed when KC’s offense stunk and cheered when Charles was given the opportunity to make plays.

“I thought the fans were tremendous for us today,” Haley said. “I thought they were loud, a disruption for the Bills much of the game.”

Yes, sir, the refs flagged the Bills for three penalties on Sunday —- two holdings and one pass interference. Buffalo clearly lost its composure inside thundering Arrowhead Stadium. You might think a noise-rattled team on the road would jump offsides or blow timeouts, but you don’t understand the “process.”

Or you don’t understand Kansas City’s ticket-selling “process.” It’s founded on gassing up gullible fans with poorly timed, poorly delivered platitudes. Haley sounded like Eddie Haskell.

The most troubling aspect of it all is that it’s an indication that Haley is receiving awful advice. He’s a rookie head coach. He needs solid, mature mentoring and guidance. He’s not getting it. He’s getting just the opposite.

Whoever told him to shill for ticket sales in the moments after that performance should be removed from Haley’s inner circle.

Some of you might think I’m pouncing on something small and insignificant. You’re wrong. The cliche is true: The truth is buried in the details.

Haley is likely receiving a lot of bad advice, not just on the proper tone to set in his postgame remarks. And if he’s receiving good advice, he’s ignoring it or can’t execute it.

This would explain all of the odd fourth-down decisions throughout the year. It would explain the fake punt deep his own territory last week. It would explain his Bobby Knight coaching style early in the season. It would explain a lot.

Haley looks amateur because his front-office support system (Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli) is amateur and he blew up the one assistant coach (Chan Gailey) with the necessary experience and credibility to help him.

So at 3-10 and one home game left on the schedule and a 156-game nonblackout streak on the line, Hunt, Pioli and Haley have been reduced to begging.

Please buy tickets, pay $22 to park and fill up Arrowhead Stadium next Sunday. Even if you boo, wear bags over your head and your children get ill watching the Chiefs play, Todd Haley will thank you for your $upport.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-14-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

All I was saying is that we did not go on a Win Now spending spree. we brought in a bunch of veteran bodies on the cheap.

I'm still looking for the post where I said that we did go on a win-now SPENDING SPREE.

I guess I can quit looking, because I never said it.

You can sign "win now" players without spending a fortune.

beach tribe · 12-14-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I think they wanted to find out who would fit into THEIR schemes by playing them in it.
Who they could keep for the 3-4, and who they could keep period. How else would they know these things without a season to evaluate the roster?

I noticed that in the panic-a-thon, pile-on no one responded to this.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-14-2009, 02:44 PM

In the world of a moron, everything happens in a vacuum.

beach tribe · 12-14-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm still looking for the post where I said that we did go on a win-now SPENDING SPREE.

I guess I can quit looking, because I never said it.

You can sign "win now" players without spending a fortune.

Or you can sign unemployed players to fill a completely devoid roster.
However you want to look at it man. No worries.

**DeezNutz** · 12-14-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I noticed that in the panic-a-thon, pile-on no one responded to this.

If Pioli actually needs an entire season of evidence to determine whether or not a player fits into his system, we hired the single worst evaluator of talent in the NFL.

Hammock Parties · 12-14-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Or you can sign unemployed players to fill a completely devoid roster.

How many times does it have to be pointed out?

We didn't have to sign Bobby Engram. Could have had Houshmandzadeh.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-14-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Or you can sign unemployed players to fill a completely devoid roster.
However you want to look at it man. No worries.

And if I want to fill said roster, I can either go after:

A) Unemployed 23 year old with potential

or

B) Unemployed 35 year old with a broke dick that has ties to by Daddy-in-Law, former boss, or HC.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-14-2009, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If Pioli actually needs an entire season of evidence to determine whether or not a player fits into his system, we hired the single worst evaluator of talent in the NFL.

Esto.

And why would it preclude him drafting or signing FA playmakers that fit his system?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-14-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Esto.

And why would it preclude him drafting or signing FA playmakers that fit his system?

Because that requires one to give up the myth that Pioli is God's gift to personnel.

beach tribe · 12-14-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

How many times does it have to be pointed out?

We didn't have to sign Bobby Engram. Could have had Houshmandzadeh.

And Housh would cost how much, and be how old by the time we built a roster?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-14-2009, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe

And Housh would cost how much, and be how old by the time we built a roster?

Oh, so now we care about the age of the guys that we sign, and how much they cost.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-14-2009, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe

And Housh would cost how much, and be how old by the time we built a roster?

He'd be younger than Engram...

By like 4 years.

Hammock Parties · 12-14-2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe

And Housh would cost how much, and be how old by the time we built a roster?

Who cares about money?

Pioli signed Bobby Engram and Mike Goff....and Chris Chambers...might as well sign an old guy who's actually GOOD.

Bobby Wade is young, though. Good thing we have him.

beach tribe · 12-14-2009, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

And if I want to fill said roster, I can either go after:

A) Unemployed 23 year old with potential

or

B) Unemployed 35 year old with a broke dick that has ties to by Daddy-in-Law, former boss, or HC.

We signed young guys too.

And everybody seems to know exactly what they are doing/have done wrong, but none have said who these great players we were supposed to bring in were.

Let's hear it.

I'm leaving work now, but I'll be thrilled to hear all the names that we should have brought in that would be so much help to us in 2012.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-14-2009, 02:58 PM

As though this list hasn't been posted ad ****ing nauseum in the last 3 months.

What a disingenuous crock of shit you are.

12-13-2009, 11:27 PM
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021115	Whitlock: Chiefs should thank anyone who sat through this game http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/1629259.html By JASON WHITLOCK The Kansas City Star The “process” has entered the pandering phase. That’s the only explanation for Chiefs coach Todd Haley opening his postgame news conference with a disingenuous thank you to the 30,000-plus Chiefs fans who filled 80,000-seat Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday. “Before I get started,” Haley said in the aftermath of Kansas City’s 10th loss, a 16-10 snoozer to the Buffalo Bills, “publicly I want to thank the fans. I thought the fans were tremendous for us today.” Yes, this is the “process” to avoiding a blackout next Sunday. In the minutes after Kansas City’s $63 million QB launched his fourth interception of the day, misfired on two more open deep balls and was caught by CBS television cameras telling someone — maybe booing Chiefs fans or Haley barking in his headset — to shut the (expletive) up, Haley campaigned for ticket sales. “I just publicly want to thank the fans for making a lot of noise for us today,” Haley said. The boos were quite loud. And the silence was deafening at times. I can’t really blame the fans. Kansas City’s off-the-street receivers — Chris Chambers, Bobby Wade and Lance Long — were as bad as quarterback Matt Cassel, who early in the game overthrew a wide-open Mark Bradley twice. Chambers dropped a critical pass along the goal line late in the fourth quarter, got flagged for a holding penalty on the same drive and got his hands on a ball that was tipped and intercepted in the fourth quarter. Compared with Chambers, Wade had an awesome game. His most noteworthy screwup came on the last play of the third quarter when he inexplicably failed to field a punt that eventually traveled 73 yards before being stopped at the KC 7. As for Long, well, the Bills brutalized “Wes Welker Lite,” smacking him around on several kickoff returns and turning his two receptions into negative-yardage plays. Oh, and the Chiefs’ defense gave up 200 rushing yards and Haley continued to play a losing game of rock-paper-scissors with fourth-and-short decisions. Do I need to mention that in a close game against the league’s worst rushing defense the Chiefs threw the ball 43 times and ran it 26? Is it fair to criticize Haley for wanting to feed Cassel? The Sixty Million Dollar Man’s QB rating jumped 21 points from last week to an astronomical 35.4, and Jamaal Charles picked up only 143 yards in 20 carries. We talking ’bout progress, man. Not da playoffs. We talking ’bout progress. Progress isn’t happening. Pandering is. When this nightmare of a game ended, someone told Haley the most important thing to do was thank the limited number of fans who enthusiastically booed when KC’s offense stunk and cheered when Charles was given the opportunity to make plays. “I thought the fans were tremendous for us today,” Haley said. “I thought they were loud, a disruption for the Bills much of the game.” Yes, sir, the refs flagged the Bills for three penalties on Sunday —- two holdings and one pass interference. Buffalo clearly lost its composure inside thundering Arrowhead Stadium. You might think a noise-rattled team on the road would jump offsides or blow timeouts, but you don’t understand the “process.” Or you don’t understand Kansas City’s ticket-selling “process.” It’s founded on gassing up gullible fans with poorly timed, poorly delivered platitudes. Haley sounded like Eddie Haskell. The most troubling aspect of it all is that it’s an indication that Haley is receiving awful advice. He’s a rookie head coach. He needs solid, mature mentoring and guidance. He’s not getting it. He’s getting just the opposite. Whoever told him to shill for ticket sales in the moments after that performance should be removed from Haley’s inner circle. Some of you might think I’m pouncing on something small and insignificant. You’re wrong. The cliche is true: The truth is buried in the details. Haley is likely receiving a lot of bad advice, not just on the proper tone to set in his postgame remarks. And if he’s receiving good advice, he’s ignoring it or can’t execute it. This would explain all of the odd fourth-down decisions throughout the year. It would explain the fake punt deep his own territory last week. It would explain his Bobby Knight coaching style early in the season. It would explain a lot. Haley looks amateur because his front-office support system (Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli) is amateur and he blew up the one assistant coach (Chan Gailey) with the necessary experience and credibility to help him. So at 3-10 and one home game left on the schedule and a 156-game nonblackout streak on the line, Hunt, Pioli and Haley have been reduced to begging. Please buy tickets, pay $22 to park and fill up Arrowhead Stadium next Sunday. Even if you boo, wear bags over your head and your children get ill watching the Chiefs play, Todd Haley will thank you for your $upport.
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	As though this list hasn't been posted ad **ing nauseum in the last 3 months. What a disingenuous crock of shit you are. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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