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Shag · 01-03-2010, 10:30 AM

Schefter just mentioned on ESPN Sunday Countdown that Romeo Crennel was likely to join the Chiefs as DC this offseason. Nothing concrete (or necessarily surprising), but interesting nonetheless...

RustShack · 01-03-2010, 01:10 PM

I just love the dumbasses who think Bill Billichick completely did everything all by himself. Just because hes assistants don't make good HC's in no way means they aren't good assistants.

Hammock Parties · 01-03-2010, 01:11 PM

At the very least we get to start in with all the "fat coach" jokes now.

We haven't had a tub of goo roaming the sidelines in Kansas City since...I don't know when.

kcxiv · 01-03-2010, 01:11 PM

Well Kansas did. lol

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-03-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Soon, I hope.

But when Weis is added on the offensive side, I don't want to hear any bullshit. Produce.

We have all sorts of people with rings. Now find the proper personnel and ****ing make legit progress.

I will throw the **** up if I have to hear more shit about an "evaluation year." The fact that this is seriously discussed is amazing to me.

It better not happen. This staff has had an entire year to soak in the ineptitude of this franchise. Anything less than .500 next year is entirely unacceptable.

What does that mean to you and me? If they don't get there, they'll be gone by 2015. If they do, they'll be here until at least 2020.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-03-2010, 01:11 PM

Ok, let's break it down, Dr. Jack Ramsey style:

Crennel coordinated Ds in New England, where he had a back 7 that had Tedy Bruschi, Rodney Harrison, and Mike Vrabel, who were all like coaches on the field. Not to mention the fact that he had Ty Law, Asante Samuel, Vince Wilfork, Dick Seymour, Ted Johnson, and on and on and on.

Now, combine that with the fact that his boss was a legendary DC whose gameplan from SB XXV is in the ****ing HOF and who keeps the longest hours in the game.

Then, add on our new DC's 4 years of coaching in Cleveland, where he never fielded a decent defense with talent comparable to that in Kansas City.

Where is the evidence to suggest that he'll do well, other than the osmosis theory, which we assumed would work for Scott Pioli, Eric Mangini, Crennel himself once, and McDaniels??

chiefzilla1501 · 01-03-2010, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He was a figurehead in New England. If I want a defensive coordinator, I want a defensive coordinator.

It will be interesting to see how good he really is. The defense in New England hasn't been even as dominant in the later years as they were under Romeo. I don't know how much of that was based on poor drafting in the later years. But maybe there's something to it.

I also think that Romeo will get a ton of mileage out of Tyson Jackson and Dorsey. His experience teaching 3-4 D-linemen is almost unparalleled. One thing I feel pretty comfortable about is that he'll help Pioli find the right nose tackle and our D-line is going to be very well equipped to win in the trenches. At the very least, that's what we get.

**dirk digler** · 01-03-2010, 01:13 PM

I see nothing wrong with this hire it is definitely an upgrade over our current DC

**cdcox** · 01-03-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I just love the dumbasses who think Bill Billichick completely did everything all by himself. Just because hes assistants don't make good HC's in no way means they aren't good assistants.

Well, basically they've been successful with a revolving door at the coordinator positions. That potentially indicates that the coordinators weren't difference makers.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-03-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I see nothing wrong with this hire it is definitely an upgrade over our current DC

Christ, just about anyone would be considered an upgrade.

People bitched for 20 years about Carl hiring his buddies, and now when the Executive of the Decade does it, it's perfectly acceptable.

RedThat · 01-03-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What happened to you, Hamas, you used to be somebody I could trust?

I woke up. Why don't you?

lol

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-03-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Well, basically they've been successful with a revolving door at the coordinator positions. That potentially indicates that the coordinators weren't difference makers.

This.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-03-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Ok, let's break it down, Dr. Jack Ramsey style:

Crennel coordinated Ds in New England, where he had a back 7 that had Tedy Bruschi, Rodney Harrison, and Mike Vrabel, who were all like coaches on the field. Not to mention the fact that he had Ty Law, Asante Samuel, Vince Wilfork, Dick Seymour, Ted Johnson, and on and on and on.

Now, combine that with the fact that his boss was a legendary DC whose gameplan from SB XXV is in the ****ing HOF and who keeps the longest hours in the game.

Then, add on our new DC's 4 years of coaching in Cleveland, where he never fielded a decent defense with talent comparable to that in Kansas City.

Where is the evidence to suggest that he'll do well, other than the osmosis theory, which we assumed would work for Scott Pioli, Eric Mangini, Crennel himself once, and McDaniels??

Where is the evidence to suggest that he won't do it well? You're making the argument that Patriots coordinators don't make good coaches, and that's probably true. They try to hard to be Bellichick when they're not.

But Mike Nolan was a horrible head coach in San Francisco and Gregg Williams was an absolute nightmare in Buffalo. How do you know Romeo won't follow in their shadow?

**DeezNutz** · 01-03-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Christ, just about anyone would be considered an upgrade.

People bitched for 20 years about Carl hiring his buddies, and now when the Executive of the Decade does it, it's perfectly acceptable.

In Pioli's defense, the Cassel acquisition was a clear anti-Carl move.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-03-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

In Pioli's defense, the Cassel acquisition was a clear anti-Carl move.

Yeah, because he only gave up a R2 pick, instead of a R1 pick.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-03-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Where is the evidence to suggest that he won't do it well? You're making the argument that Patriots coordinators don't make good coaches, and that's probably true. They try to hard to be Bellichick when they're not.

But Mike Nolan was a horrible head coach in San Francisco and Gregg Williams was an absolute nightmare in Buffalo. How do you know Romeo won't follow in their shadow?

Crennel and Mangini installed their defensive systems where they went and failed miserably.

They didn't fail b/c of their offense, which might be understandable.

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