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TRR · 04-18-2010, 10:56 AM

Not sure if it has been posted.....

Chiefs Are 'Badly' Trying To Trade Down To Middle Of First*Round

by Joel Thorman on Apr 18, 2010 10:34 AM CDT in 2010 Campaign

Last year about this time, Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post first reported that the Chiefs were "in love" with LSU DE Tyson Jackson. A few days later and Jackson was the Chiefs pick in the draft.

Now Lombardi reports that the Chiefs are trying like hell to move down in the draft.

"The Chiefs are trying, and I mean really trying, to move down," Lombardi reports. "My sources tell me they'll be willing to go down as far as 15 for the right deal because they feel they can find a player in that range."

It's a fine line between trading down and trading down too far. According to Lombardi, our theory of the Eagles offering up the 24th and 37th picks for the Chiefs fifth pick doesn't look like it's happening. By staying around 15, they can still have a shot at a game changer -- Alabama LB Rolando McClain and Texas S Earl Thomas come to mind here -- as well as picking up extra selections.

That said, who's the Chiefs trading partner? SB Nation's Mocking The Draft takes an excellent look at this situation and comes to the conclusion that San Francisco might be the only team in that area that has a chance of moving up.

Lombardi reports the Chiefs are hoping someone wants to get in line to pick Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen.

mcaj22 · 04-18-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I can't wait for New England to trade up to five and give us Sam Aiken, Russ Ohrnberger, Kyle Arrington and the #24 pick.

We will be the Browns of last year at 5 when Mangina got 3 scrubs from the Jets that he loved included with the picks.

**Reaper16** · 04-18-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

There has been bitching and moaning about everything under the sun here for 2 years now. Odds are it's going to come to fruition now and again.

Now and again? More like "all of the time."

bowener · 04-18-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

If that's true, then what does it mean? I would think it means they're wanting to go offensive line.

I think it means that Mecca's assessment is correct, that they want Rolando McClain.

The Bunk · 04-18-2010, 01:01 PM

Stay classy Dane.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-18-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bunk

Stay classy Dane.

Go **** yourself

Hammock Parties · 04-18-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

There has been bitching and moaning about everything under the sun here for 2 years now. Odds are it's going to come to fruition now and again.

There was virtually zero bitching about the 2008 draft.

**cdcox** · 04-18-2010, 01:03 PM

This is why you don't target Thomas (a very good player) when a player like Berry falls into your lap: a dynasty team will send 5 or more players to the HOF. Who are the potential HOFers on the current roster? Do we have a single one? You sure as hell don't put HOFers on your roster by taking very good players over elite talent.

I know the Pats are going to an exception to the rule about dynasties sending lots of players to the HOF, but 1) we aren't the Pats and 2) the Pats seemed to have lost that lightening they once had in the bottle. It is a stupid model to copy.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-18-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i know right?

how weird is that people come to an internet sports message board to speculate about sports rumors regarding their favorite team?

gee whiz beav.....

It's amazing to me that people actually take time out of their day to criticize others who are discussing the topic at hand.

What a bunch of ****ing tools.

Marcellus · 04-18-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

And when that happens, there will be people like you saying how "if we were so smart, why aren't we GMs" and "give him time to see if the picks pan out."

Here is how I see it.

I want a winner, a team that builds a strong core and is competitive and a contender every year. Not just a 9-7 playoff team squeezed between 2 4-12 seasons or a 13-3 team that craps out in the playoffs and goes 7-9 the next year.

How that happens, I really don't give a **** as long as it happens. If I see a lack of acceptable improvement next year I am going to be pissed. If the team continues to suck I will want to see Pioli and Haley gone just like I wanted Herm and Carl gone, just like I wanted Vermiel gone at the end.

I am just not going to make every rumor or draft selection I didn't like into the definitive proof we aren't going to get better. We won 2x as many games in 2009 as we did in 2008 with a "worse" coach and less talent according to some.

Sorry if I get a laugh out of the people who do make every rumor or story talking about what we may do into a negative every damn time.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-18-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

This is why you don't target Thomas (a very good player) when a player like Berry falls into your lap: a dynasty team will send 5 or more players to the HOF. Who are the potential HOFers on the current roster? Do we have a single one? You sure as hell don't put HOFers on your roster by taking very good players over elite talent.

I know the Pats are going to an exception to the rule about dynasties sending lots of players to the HOF, but 1) we aren't the Pats and 2) the Pats seemed to have lost that lightening they once had in the bottle. It is a stupid model to copy.

Blasphemer!

Marcellus · 04-18-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's amazing to me that people actually take time out of their day to criticize others who are discussing the topic at hand.

What a bunch of ****ing tools.

I am not bashing, I am laughing at the melodrama.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-18-2010, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I am not bashing, I am laughing at the melodrama.

Bullshit.

This is a legitmate news item from a former NFL GM who's currently employed by the NFL Network. This isn't just some "internet rumor".

People are discussing the outcome of such a move or trade. If you don't want to contribute, don't.

But please stop criticizing others for their involvement.

**Rain Man** · 04-18-2010, 01:18 PM

It's a mistake to fall in love with any one player in the draft, and that's happening a lot around here.

**Reaper16** · 04-18-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

It's a mistake to fall in love with any one player in the draft, and that's happening a lot around here.

Can you unpack that so it makes sense?

**DeezNutz** · 04-18-2010, 01:23 PM

I don't see this board as necessarily hyperfocusing on a single player. Rather, I think there's been intense attachment, for good reason, to the handful of elite talents in this class.

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