Weiss told Fox to take Clausen

[Chiefnj2]

It's water under the bridge, but interesting nonetheless:

In doing pre-draft research, not that he thought he'd have a chance to get Clausen, Fox talked to Charlie Weis, his good friend and the former Irish coach. Weis and Fox are close. Fox is sure Weis wouldn't lie to him. "Charlie said he's probably the best he's ever had,'' Fox said. "He said, 'Take this guy. Trust me.' Everyone I talked to, including a couple of people at Notre Dame, said the character issue was b.s. So we picked him.''

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[Quesadilla Joe]

I promise you that you will be happy you didn't draft Clausen. There is nothing elite about him.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

To Hootie's point, if Clausen is such a can't-miss franchise QB (and we all know that QB is the most important position), why wouldn't every team want him? Why wouldn't teams with established QBs take him just to trade him later or trade their current QB? A franchise QB has to be worth a couple of first or second rounders right?

Oh, wait. He's not a guarantee, and many teams (THE CHIEFS INCLUDED) obviously don't even view him as worthy of a second round pick.

****ING DROP IT

We should just take Clausen at five.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I promise you that we won't be happy we drafted Tebow. There is nothing elite about him.

Well that's a first.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

We should just take Clausen at five.

Fighting fire with fire.

Troll the trolls.

I like it.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Fighting fire with fire.

Troll the trolls.

I like it.

It'd be easier for me to just let it go if they'd ignore the threads they "don't want to read." People around here talk about how we make this site unenjoyable, but they just can't help themselves from clicking the threads they know we're in.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

To Hootie's point, if Clausen is such a can't-miss franchise QB (and we all know that QB is the most important position), why wouldn't every team want him? Why wouldn't teams with established QBs take him just to trade him later or trade their current QB? A franchise QB has to be worth a couple of first or second rounders right?

Oh, wait. He's not a guarantee, and many teams (THE CHIEFS INCLUDED) obviously don't even view him as worthy of a second round pick.

****ING DROP IT

There has been some debate since the draft as to who made the draft day calls, and how Weis really felt about Clausen and Tate. People were surprised to see KC pass over Clausen and Tate numerous times when (a) they were regarded as first round prospects by many gurus prior to the draft, (b) Weis spoke highly of them, (c) there were tons of rumors floating that Weis would be fighting Pioli to take Clausen.

Since the draft, we've seen war room footage without Weis being present and stories confirming Weis' view of Clausen. So, it's interesting to some of us to see that Pioli and Haley apparently feel differently on the prospects and how they may potentially be handcuffing their OC and giving him ingredients he doesn't necessarily want (to borrow an analogy used by Parcells years ago).

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

If Cassel fails , we'll be in position to draft a QB next year better than Clausen.

This could've been averted, because if he had his choice when Cassel does fail he would have his QB then take his pick at the elite WR crop in 2011. Two birds with one stone.

[MoreLemonPledge]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Fighting fire with fire.

Troll the trolls.

I like it.

If the definition of trolling is inciting argument, then you're a troll.

The Chiefs didn't draft Clausen. Fact is every single team in the NFL passed on him, some twice. Get over it.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

If the definition of trolling is inciting argument, then you're a troll.

The Chiefs didn't draft Clausen. Fact is every single team in the NFL passed on him, some twice. Get over it.

sigh.

Sayin' we should just take Clausen at five.

We should just take Clausen at five.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

To Hootie's point, if Clausen is such a can't-miss franchise QB (and we all know that QB is the most important position), why wouldn't every team want him? Why wouldn't teams with established QBs take him just to trade him later or trade their current QB? A franchise QB has to be worth a couple of first or second rounders right?

Oh, wait. He's not a guarantee, and many teams (THE CHIEFS INCLUDED) obviously don't even view him as worthy of a second round pick.

****ING DROP IT

why do people enter threads for the sole purpose of telling people to stop talking?


are you so fragile that even a discussion you're not a part of makes you cry?

how about skipping the thread if it so hurts your feelings?

[MoreLemonPledge]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

sigh.

Sayin' we should just take Clausen at five.

We should just take Clausen at five.

Oh, I get it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

It'd be easier for me to just let it go if they'd ignore the threads they "don't want to read." People around here talk about how we make this site unenjoyable, but they just can't help themselves from clicking the threads they know we're in.

They don't get the attention they crave otherwise.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

Oh, I get it.

It's all in good fun dude. Lighten up.

[MoreLemonPledge]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

why do people enter threads for the sole purpose of telling people to stop talking?


are you so fragile that even a discussion you're not a part of makes you cry?

how about skipping the thread if it so hurts your feelings?

I'm just sick of hearing people bitch about Clausen. We didn't draft him. There's a reason why. What's the point of complaining about it now?

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

If the definition of trolling is inciting argument, then you're a troll.

The Chiefs didn't draft Clausen. Fact is every single team in the NFL passed on him, some twice. Get over it.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll


1. troll

One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument


One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.
Volourn



1a. Noun
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

1b. Noun
A person who, on a message forum of some type, attacks and flames other members of the forum for any of a number of reasons such as rank, previous disagreements, sex, status, ect.
A troll usually flames threads without staying on topic, unlike a "Flamer" who flames a thread because he/she disagrees with the content of the thread.

1c. Noun
A member of an internet forum who continually harangues and harasses others. Someone with nothing worthwhile to add to a certain conversation, but rather continually threadjacks or changes the subject, as well as thinks every member of the forum is talking about them and only them. Trolls often go by multiple names to circumvent getting banned.