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Old 04-30-2012, 11:23 AM  
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WTF Mike Silver says we are the 28th best team in the NFL

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1. New York Giants: Is general manager Jerry Reese trying to get disgruntled defensive end Osi Umenyiora to snap?

2. New England Patriots: If Bill Belichick pulled off a trade in which he managed to swap picks with himself, would his reputation for masterful maneuvering reach an unprecedented plateau?

[ Dan Wetzel: Pats move up twice during first round in a dramatic shift in strategy ]

3. Green Bay Packers: Yo, Ted Thompson, feeling a bit defensive – and does having a 28-year-old superstar quarterback impact your thinking much?

4. Baltimore Ravens: When second-round draft pick Courtney Upshaw lines up across from new teammate Michael Oher in training camp, will their biological and surrogate parents be there to cheer them on?

5. San Francisco 49ers: How happy is Jim Harbaugh that the Niners drafted a receiver whose high school nickname was "E.T." and not "Edward Scissorhands"?

6. Houston Texans: With the drafting of Wade Phillips' newest pass-rushing toy, will the Texans' defense be Mercilus in 2012?

7. Pittsburgh Steelers: Got beef?

[ Les Carpenter: Draft picks spend more time in Radio City than anticipated ]

8. Detroit Lions: If the decision-makers in the Lions' war room "listened to our board" and started speaking in Matt Millen's voice, would the team's medical staff pass out handfuls of clozapine?

9. Atlanta Falcons: Hey, Thomas Dimitroff – if second-round pick Peter Konz could play guard and center at the same time, would you have made another Julio Jones-style trade to get him sixth overall?

10. Philadelphia Eagles: After assuring offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg that Philly's plan to use a third-round pick on former Arizona quarterback Nick Foles was "a great one", was Michael Vick tempted to add, "By the way – who's Nick Foles?"

11. New Orleans Saints: When Saints general manager Mickey Loomis called in his third-round pick of Regina defensive tackle Akiem Hicks Friday night, was NFL commissioner Roger Goodell tempted to grab the phone and interject, "Yeah, we know – we've got your war room wiretapped …"

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12. Denver Broncos: Will Brock Osweiler become the tallest-ever teammate to bend down and polish Peyton Manning's dress shoes before a Quarterbacks' Night Out at training camp?

13. Dallas Cowboys: What was the Wonderlic score of the Dallas Morning News website editor who posted this headline about first-round draft pick "Morrris" Claiborne?

14. New York Jets: Am I the only one who wonders whether, based on their 2011 performance, the Jets should have drafted an offensive lineman before the sixth round?

15. Cincinnati Bengals: After Rutgers receiver Mohamed Sanu got a prank call telling him the Bengals were taking him in the first round Thursday night, shouldn't Redskins tight end Chris Cooley have been considered the prime suspect?

Notre Dame WR Michael Floyd is headed to Arizona. (AP)

16. Arizona Cardinals: If I'd been at Larry Fitzgerald's house for the first round of this year's draft, would he have reacted to the selection of Notre Dame receiver Michael Floyd by racing jubilantly through his open-air living room and jumping into the pool?

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17. San Diego Chargers: After learning that Chargers GM A.J. Smith had called him a "mean, nasty man", shouldn't first-round pick Melvin Ingram have extended his hand and retorted, "Pot, meet kettle"?

18. Carolina Panthers: How crazy is it that this year's No. 1 pick, Boston College middle linebacker Luke Kuechly, is smaller than last year's No. 1, quarterback Cam Newton?

19. Buffalo Bills: When general manager Buddy Nix described the Bills as "riverboat gamblers" after trading up to get North Carolina State wideout T.J. Graham in the third round, why did I immediately picture this body of water?

20. Chicago Bears: Will the new receiving tandem of Brandon Marshall and second-round pick Alshon Jeffery cause more havoc in opposing secondaries, or in the Bears' locker room?

21. Washington Redskins: When the 'Skins released quarterback John Beck on Saturday, was he humming my altered-lyric version of this iconic '90s tune from his alt-rock namesake?

22. St. Louis Rams: In an effort to help veteran Cortland Finnegan mentor newly drafted cornerbacks Janoris Jenkins and Trumaine Johnson, will coach Jeff Fisher provide the former Titans standout with a Taser gun?

[ Rams' war room: Roll dice on Janoris Jenkin | Select next T.O. ]

23. Tennessee Titans: After NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock described second-round pick Zach Brown as "allergic to contact", how awesome would it have been to see Brown fly across the set at Radio City Music Hall, slam Mayock into the orchestra pit and yell "Gesundheit"?

24. Seattle Seahawks: What's more surprising – that Pete Carroll and Jon Schneider drafted a quarterback in the third round, or that Wisconsin's Russell Wilson is the team's highest-drafted passer in nearly two decades?

25. Oakland Raiders: How disconcerting is it that post-Al Davis Raiders are resolutely boring on draft day, and can't new GM Reggie McKenzie just indulge us with one ultra-swift, lowly regarded "reach" pick per year?

26. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: If the Muscle Hamster runs wild at Raymond James Stadium, will they put a large, spinning wheel next to the pirate ship in Doug Martin's honor?

27. Cleveland Browns: As of Thursday night, is Colt McCoy nostalgic for a little one-on-one time with Brian Daboll?

28. Kansas City Chiefs: Do Scott Pioli and Romeo Crennel seem overly optimistic in their assessment of the Chiefs' talent level – or am I just so pessimistic about K.C.'s quarterback situation that it completely clouds my thinking?

29. Jacksonville Jaguars: To realize value as the 70th overall pick, would Bryan Anger have to figure out a way to get footballs to explode upon making contact with a punt returner?

30. Minnesota Vikings: Yo, Matt Kalil – while proclaiming how much more Minnesota than California you are, were you neglecting to account for the possibility that the team which drafted you might soon be West Coast-bound?

31. Miami Dolphins: Does Jeff Irleand's latest rebuilding project involve replacing his best player – and, if so, why do I sense another protest brewing?

[ Jason Cole: Colts use Day 2 of draft to get Andrew Luck weapons in form of 2 TEs and a WR ]

32. Indianapolis Colts: Now that former Stanford tight end Coby Fleener has successfully convinced an NFL team he was worthy of being selected with the 34th overall pick, will he grow his hair out and lose the whole Rob Gronkowski impersonation bit?
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:33 PM   #136
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The problem I see with some in the fan base is the over-evaluation of talent that is on this team.

The Chiefs have SUCKED through Gunther, Herm, and Todd. Now that the team is beginning to improve, I think much of the fan base feels as if a lot more of the players are irreplacable and that opinion is skewed by 10+ years of suckage.

IMO the only player on this team that has potential as a future HOF and would be VERY difficult to replace would be Eric Berry. Other than that, I ain't losing sleep over any player losing his job for a potential upgrade.
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:36 PM   #137
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If i had to pick a side, I'd pick Direkshun's in this argument, because in no way do i believe the Chiefs are a bottom 10 team in terms of talent. I'd put them 15-20. This is ignoring the QB obviously.

The one thing I'd like to weigh in on is Bowe.

I see "Bowe is the same receiver" get mentioned all the time.

That's such BS.

Bowe is a far better WR today than he was his Rookie/Sophmore seasons. His numbers may be the same, but numbers don't tell the whole story and you guys know it.

He looks far more polished out there today then he did before. I'd venture to say he looks quicker as well. He's more consistent too.

He is NOT the same WR he was 3 years ago.
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:39 PM   #138
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Without Cassell this is a top 15 team, with him they have a shot at the whole thing.
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:50 PM   #139
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Yes. The Chiefs won the division two seasons ago with Cassel and a full allotment of players, but somehow with MORE talent and those '10 players coming back...healthy...we're one of the five worst teams in the league.

Makes sense.
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:55 PM   #140
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Yes. The Chiefs won the division two seasons ago with Cassel and a full allotment of players, but somehow with MORE talent and those '10 players coming back...healthy...we're one of the five worst teams in the league.

Makes sense.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:03 PM   #141
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I call Bullshit. I don't really care what the stats say, he was making better plays, this last year. Plays he would not have made before.
That would speak to the 'overvaluation' of the talent on the team.

Just because you see a better player than the guy we had 4 years ago, doesn't mean he really is.

He's essentially the same guy. Still has the same maddening drops. Still capable of the same highlight reel catches. He's a damn good WR, but he was a damn good WR from the moment he put on the uniform.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:03 PM   #142
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To me, this is the most talented Chiefs team since the 1997 Chiefs. They're a better overall team than the 2003 Chiefs because this team actually has a great defense.

This team has an above average offense with Charles and Moeaki coming back, along with the familiarity of Steve Breaston and Baldwin in year 2 of their contracts.

Cassel is the only true weak link on the offense. You could also include Lilja. But his replacement is already waiting in line.

This takes me to 1997.

This is the most talented team since 1997.

Obviously, if this team had Trent Green the expectations would be the Super Bowl.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:04 PM   #143
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Hahaha

Some of you have lost your minds.

Even Hamas said we are a superbowl team albeit qb.

Then we have OTWP saying we are the 26th best teM in the NFL...buy will probably win 8 games.

I can't wait to read the rest of this later.

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That would speak to the 'overvaluation' of the talent on the team.

Just because you see a better player than the guy we had 4 years ago, doesn't mean he really is.

He's essentially the same guy. Still has the same maddening drops. Still capable of the same highlight reel catches. He's a damn good WR, but he was a damn good WR from the moment he put on the uniform.
He's more consistent now than before. He's a better, more polished player now. You said he was the same guy. He isn't. Same goes for DJ, Hali, etc.
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If i had to pick a side, I'd pick Direkshun's in this argument, because in no way do i believe the Chiefs are a bottom 10 team in terms of talent. I'd put them 15-20. This is ignoring the QB obviously.

The one thing I'd like to weigh in on is Bowe.

I see "Bowe is the same receiver" get mentioned all the time.

That's such BS.

Bowe is a far better WR today than he was his Rookie/Sophmore seasons. His numbers may be the same, but numbers don't tell the whole story and you guys know it.

He looks far more polished out there today then he did before. I'd venture to say he looks quicker as well. He's more consistent too.

He is NOT the same WR he was 3 years ago.
This, he was good, but he is approaching the elite talent level now. Of course some growth is expected, but I give a lot of the credit to Haley, as that is where his expertise was.
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Hell, the defense alone makes this a middle of the pack team. This is a braindead list.
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You're wrong.

A team that went 7-9 against a HARD schedule while missing its best players on offense and defense, a key contributor on offense, and playing backup QBs for almost half the season?

That's not bottom-third talent. That's, at the very least, mid-third talent. I'd put us towards the top of the mid third.
DUDE.

I keep telling you:

You can't look at last year's team as a legit 7-win team.

We got practically gifted five of those wins because we played Caleb Hanie, Tim Tebow, Donovan McNabb, Curtis Painter and Kyle Boller.

Hanie and Tebow threw up all of 3 points against us. Boller threw up 0.

Painter sucked for an entire scoreless half, paving the way for our "comeback." McNabb was McNabb.

Last year's Chiefs were a 4-12 team that ran into some really shitty quarterbacks. I would be shocked if we held 3 teams to 3 or fewer points this season.
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DUDE.

I keep telling you:

You can't look at last year's team as a legit 7-win team.

We got practically gifted five of those wins because we played Caleb Hanie, Tim Tebow, Donovan McNabb, Curtis Painter and Kyle Boller.

Hanie and Tebow threw up all of 3 points against us. Boller threw up 0.

Painter sucked for an entire scoreless half, paving the way for our "comeback." McNabb was McNabb.

Last year's Chiefs were a 4-12 team that ran into some really shitty quarterbacks. I would be shocked if we held 3 teams to 3 or fewer points this season.
That is the stupidest logic I've ever heard. ****, you are the worst football poster on this forum.

By your logic, every team should start deducting wins off their schedule because they beat teams with bad QB's.

I swear, you are borderline downs.
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How many wins did the pats get that don't count? How about GB?
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