Gas on the Fire: Shutdown Corner Gives Chiefs "F" in FA.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by O.city

So you were wrong last year, but not this time?

Some were so sure it was the wrong move last year, they won 11 games and made the playoffs. Yet now they're wrong again, before we've seen any actual games.

I dunno, did they not earn any trust?

What was KC's record against playoff teams last year? Or teams with a winning record?

[TripleThreat]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

It's unfortunate that the Chiefs didn't do anything in the off-season to build upon Smith's tremendous performance in the playoffs.

The team desperately needs another playmaker, either at WR or TE, and there were a couple of great options of the former to bring in that could have had a big-time impact.

Opportunities lost when you have an in-his-prime QB. The window is short. We paid a win-now price with the trade for Smith, and then the team sits on its hands.

Illogical as all ****.

Took the words outta my mouth

Raiders made huge moves, broncos still made moves, Yet we are content with making our team less "skilled" as 2013.. unless we have big moves coming or drafting a WR/TE #1, and a magic #2, then i have doubts..

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

My buddy getting a pic with Wes Welker and photobomb by Cassel.

HAHA that's pretty funny, Cassel looking like a douche.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

If you're not seriously contending for championships then you're better off jettisoning veterans and acquire young players for experience.

Problem is KC went all in by trading for a QB and screwed up their draft position in a year that looks to be laden with talent. Meanwhile they'll play tougher opponents without seriously improving their roster so they'll "underachieve" in 2014 but won't lose enough games to get a high draft pick in what looks to be a shallow draft.

In short, the Chiefs are beginning to swirl the mediocrity drain.

So we are back to this again?

Jesus Christ.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

If you're not seriously contending for championships then you're better off jettisoning veterans and acquire young players for experience.

Problem is KC went all in by trading for a QB and screwed up their draft position in a year that looks to be laden with talent. Meanwhile they'll play tougher opponents without seriously improving their roster so they'll "underachieve" in 2014 but won't lose enough games to get a high draft pick in what looks to be a shallow draft.

In short, the Chiefs are beginning to swirl the mediocrity drain.

You are not contending for a championship by keeping and overpaying veterans capable of attaining only mediocrity.

If you were banking on Albert, Asamoah, Jackson and McCluster to bring this team a championship, you better ****ing start looking for some serious enlightenment as it relates to your football expectations and understandings because that's some dumb as shit thinking right there.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Not really.

Herm was a shitty head coach. And he cycled through assistants like crazy in an effort to keep his own job.

And 2008 was a full on **** up.

This is not Herm's 2008 team. They haven't gone full reerun rookie mad. Core players with good experience are the backbone of this team and will be augmented by well researched rookies through the draft.

This is nearly a polar opposite of that 2008 disaster that was the impetus for the Pioli reign of terror.

If you can't see that, I don't know what else to say to you.

'08 was a full on effort to rebuild, which netted the likes of Albert, Flowers, and Charles in the draft, some of the very same players whom the team relies upon today.

Factor in Bowe, Hali, and DJ, and we have much of the same "core" that people laud currently.

Herm couldn't coach for shit, but he was absolutely part of the process when actual talent was brought on board, and he definitively acknowledged the correct role of the draft.

While he couldn't execute to save his life, I do believe that Herm understood the correct process-level approach.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

Yeah. He played for that same raiders defense that let us put up 56 pts. Jackson was pretty good against the run, and crappy against the pass, all chiefs did was flip it. Vance freaking walker still would keep it an F-.

We may well have just broken even, but you cant solely blame Walker for a 50 burger... I don't see him as some huge upgrade, but these days gimme the better pass pressure over run prowess, I still think he puts us in a better spot at DE.

[mcaj22]

"Enjoy the Rebuild"

Est 2008. Chiefs Way

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

What was KC's record against playoff teams last year? Or teams with a winning record?

Coming off being the worst team in the league and the worst season in chiefs history, were you expecting them to be more than we saw last year?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

"Enjoy the Rebuild"

Est 2008. Chiefs Way

I'm curious, you've always been one of piolis biggest critics, so if he was as bad as you say, should we not be in somewhat of a rebuild? Or did he bring in so much talent that it's not warranted?

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

You are not contending for a championship by keeping and overpaying veterans capable of attaining only mediocrity.

If you were banking on Albert, Asamoah, Jackson and McCluster to bring this team a championship, you better ****ing start looking for some serious enlightenment as it relates to your football expectations and understandings because that's some dumb as shit thinking right there.

Again you miss the point as usual.

The Chiefs had several needs even before losing their 5 free agents and they have done next to nothing to address any of these needs.

Most people aren't upset by the loss of any of the Chiefs free agents, with the exception of Schwartz.

The problem is the Chiefs have been comatose this offseason and have failed to add any impact players in free agency.

So unless you think that the Chiefs are realistically going to fill all of their needs in the draft (with only 6 draft picks and no pick in the 2nd round)… it seems unlikely that the Chiefs will be able to improve on last season (especially against a tougher schedule).

Explain how it is a good thing that the Chiefs will likely be taking a step back next season.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

You are not contending for a championship by keeping and overpaying veterans capable of attaining only mediocrity.

If you were banking on Albert, Asamoah, Jackson and McCluster to bring this team a championship, you better ****ing start looking for some serious enlightenment as it relates to your football expectations and understandings because that's some dumb as shit thinking right there.

Nope. But I don't see how trading for a QB makes any sense last year.

They should have traded Albert last season. They should have signed a seat warmer QB and taken a chance on a rookie that would've best fit Reid' system and let Bowe play on a franchise tag. If no QB was worth taking last year then they should have found a way to get extra picks in this year's draft to have the firepower to get a guy like Manziel or Bridgewater or whoever.

But they didn't and have set themselves up with a very hard road to improve the team for the next few seasons.

[Hammock Parties]

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Nope. But I don't see how trading for a QB makes any sense last year.

They should have traded Albert last season. They should have signed a seat warmer QB and taken a chance on a rookie that would've best fit Reid' system and let Bowe play on a franchise tag. If no QB was worth taking last year then they should have found a way to get extra picks in this year's draft to have the firepower to get a guy like Manziel or Bridgewater or whoever.

But they didn't and have set themselves up with a very hard road to improve the team for the next few seasons.

So we all agree Reid has a great system for qbs and is great working with qbs, yet we don't agree with the one he most wanted?

I agree in regards to Albert.

Why does it have to be a rookie qb best fit Reid's system? Obviously they feel smith fits said system better than anyone available.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Dude, they are building properly.

Finally.

Dorsey has a literal army of scouts working for the team. There's two coaches at every position. They've hired some of the best position coaches in the league.

This is not Pioli trying to do the scouting, managing and personnel all by himself. This is not Peterson signing one impact player every five years, filling the gaps with overpriced free agents and then heading to Aruba.

These guys are going about it the best way possible.

It's going to take time.

Relax.

Have fun.

Enjoy what comes from it, but don't expect Super Bowl in year two of a rebuild that was coming off the worst four year stretch in franchise history.

****.

The Chiefs core group… all of those Pro Bowl players are in the prime of their careers right now. Alex Smith is 30 with an extensive injury history, Jamaal Charles turns 28 this year December, Hali is 30, etc.

So by the time the Chiefs rebuild all of the holes around this core group they are going to have to start replacing players IN the core group.

A constant state of rebuilding… the Chiefs way.

And apparently you are happy with that.