Rishaw Johnson penciled in as RG starter

[The Franchise]

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The Chiefs have penciled in Rishaw Johnson as their starting right guard.

Signed off Kansas City's practice squad last September, Johnson showed promise in a Week 17 spot start against San Diego. The Seahawks were also high on Johnson at one point during his 2012 undrafted rookie season. The Chiefs have a ton of holes to fill on the offensive line after losing key guards Geoff Schwartz and Jon Asamoah, as well at left tackle Branden Albert in free agency.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by SNR

Rishaw has one game of starting experience. He's going to have pitfalls. Schwartz came in with a lot of experience, actually.

Guards should be invisible. You shouldn't notice they exist on the team. If your guy is a pancake machine and Will Shields, then great, but other than that a team should only ever invest in the position to keep it adequate and steady.

Schwartz was adequacy and steadiness. He would have been a veteran figure that the rest of the line is already comfortable playing next to. Now the Chiefs have to worry about Fisher, Stephenson, AND their RG, in addition to Jeff Allen's continued bullshit and Rodney Hudson just being okay.

Having Schwartz there would have helped out all those problems in a significant way.

So does Linkenbach.

He's the identical twin of Geoff Schwartz.

Nobody really gave a shit about Schwartz when we signed him and here was a guy who the coaching staff felt wasn't good enough to beat out the mediocrity of Jon Asamoah. However, after six games, we are wailing and lamenting the fact that we didn't give him $5 million dollars per annum on a long term deal and now we are only left with shit bags like Linkenbach and Johnson and Watkins - guys just like ****ing Schwartz.

[BlackHelicopters]

Rishaw will shock the world.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by planetdoc

I'm not sure if anyone is implying it, but I want to make it clear that Rishaw Johnson is very athletic, and not just a "bum" because he wasnt drafted by the chiefs.

Rishaw Johnson also has 35.25" arms, and 10.25" hands
while Xavier has 33.375" arms, and 9.375" hands

You don't get it. Everyone that we didn't draft that plays a "skill position" is a bum to the vast majority of people around here.

Alex Smith? ****ing bum.
Fasano? ****ing bum.
Avery? ****ing bum.

The non-skill players who we draft are also ****ing bums.

Fisher? ****ing bum.
Stephenson? ****ing bum.
Hudson? ****ing bum.
Allen? ****ing bum.
Bailey? ****ing bum.

As well, anyone who we drafted and didn't play due to injury is a ****ing bum.

Kelce? ****ing bum.
Commings? ****ing bum.
Fisher? (again) ****ing bum.

Basically, they have to be skill position players drafted high by this organization to be worth a shit around here.

Guys who are free agent acquisitions at skill positions are ****ing bums.

Guys who are free agent acquisitions at schlep spots (defensive line, offensive line) are legendary heroes.

Notable exception is defensive linemen drafted in the top ten that the national press are jacked up about. Then they are heroes. Non-fawned upon defensive line guys from non-national powers who haven't won the Senior Bowl Defensive MVP award are ****ing bums.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

So does Linkenbach.

He's the identical twin of Geoff Schwartz.

Nobody really gave a shit about Schwartz when we signed him and here was a guy who the coaching staff felt wasn't good enough to beat out the mediocrity of Jon Asamoah. However, after six games, we are wailing and lamenting the fact that we didn't give him $5 million dollars per annum on a long term deal and now we are only left with shit bags like Linkenbach and Johnson and Watkins - guys just like ****ing Schwartz.

Linkenbach sucked dick with the Colts.

Schwartz didn't suck dick with the Vikings. He played pretty well, actually.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by SNR

Linkenbach sucked dick with the Colts.

Schwartz didn't suck dick with the Vikings. He played pretty well, actually.

This, Schwartz actually played pretty well and showed flashes of dominance in the run game. Linkenbach has always been JAG.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by SNR

Linkenbach sucked dick with the Colts.

Schwartz didn't suck dick with the Vikings. He played pretty well, actually.

He got sent to the bench and then subsequently to the free agent wire by a rookie.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Again, I just think you are massively overvaluing Schwartz.

By calling him adequate?

I'm not saying he's Will Shields. I'm saying he's young, healthy, and adequate. Give him the Giants contract (which is piddle shit for a long-term deal, really) and move on. Quit ****ing yourself in the ass by going through an offensive line crisis every goddamn offseason when there doesn't have to ****ing be one.

Adequate. Not stellar. Adequate. And to me, adequate is good enough. And if you've got "good enough" when it comes to guard play, you're doing it right. It's an added bonus that he would have had chemistry with the other guys on the team.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by SNR

By calling him adequate?

I'm not saying he's Will Shields. I'm saying he's young, healthy, and adequate. Give him the Giants contract (which is piddle shit for a long-term deal, really) and move on. Quit ****ing yourself in the ass by going through an offensive line crisis every goddamn offseason when there doesn't have to ****ing be one.

Which means drafting one in the 1st or 3rd round this year to solidify the future of our OL. OG is actually very important and key to the success of your offense, just ask Bill Walsh. What kind of Guards you have dictates what kind of plays you can run. If you have crap OGs or just "adequate" OGs, your offense isn't going to be very good.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Which means drafting one in the 1st or 3rd round this year to solidify the future of our OL. OG is actually very important and key to the success of your offense, just ask Bill Walsh. What kind of Guards you have dictates what kind of plays you can run. If you have crap OGs or just "adequate" OGs, your offense isn't going to be very good.

Which is why the Chiefs scored 40-some points in the playoffs, right? That was with Schwartz and Allen.

I keep saying this, but the Chiefs HAD another RT on their roster when Dorsey and Reid came aboard. Eric Winston. His release earned us like, $5 and a gift card to Starbucks. Basically zero cap savings. He was booted purely because he was viewed as not being important to the team.

Rodney Hudson and Donald Stephenson are going to be a free agents next year. We're going to be in the exact same position, where dudes we drafted don't get cheap longterm deals. We'll look to more Jeff Linkenbachs and Eric Kushs/Rishaw Johnsons, where nobody will be QUITE comfortable handing the positions over to them, and we'll be waffling about whether or not to draft their replacements.

If you burn top draft stock to replace Schwartz/Asamoah, then why the **** wouldn't you burn it to replace Stephenson/Hudson?

Let's just draft offensive line in the 1st round every ****ing year, how about!

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Rishaw will shock the world.

[ct]

Originally Posted by SNR

Linkenbach sucked dick with the Colts.

Schwartz didn't suck dick with the Vikings. He played pretty well, actually.

My friend is a fan, Viking season ticket timeshare, was quite complementary of Schwartz and sad to see him go. they drafted Loadholdt to play RT, and according to most vikes fans he hears on the radio was consistently outplayed by Schwartz, but they wouldn't give him any PT then let him walk.

Schwartz was a gold mine FA signing last year, but he earned his payday and moved on. Dorsey got what he wanted, a year of veteran presence to grow a younger cheaper starting RG. I wanted him back too, but geebus it's time to let go and move on.

Finding, developing, and plugging young guys like Rishaw Johnson in the lineup is exactly what Dorsey has said he's going to do. If they aren't ready yet, you bring in another cheap short term vet, aka Joe Mays vs Nico Johnson or Abdullah vs Commings, or draft someone else (TE anyone?).

I swear this place will bitch when you sign too many FAs and don't try the guys you drafted, then bitch when you don't sign FAs and try the guys they drafted. And yes, i'm qualifying Rishaw, Cooper, as essentially guys drafted or UDFA or practice squad/TC rookie waiver pickups. Teams will drop and sign these prospects back and forth all the time, and good teams will treat them all the same level, based on performance not draft position. I hope that's how we do it. Yes i'm lookin at you Kelce!!

We'll know exactly how the FO and coaches feel these prospects have developed on who/what/when we draft in 2+ weeks. Obviously if we grab OG or FS or TE 1st round that speaks far louder than the hopeful mini-camp fluff we're fed this time of year.

Just please don't be G!!! I'm on the Rishaw bandwagon, and maybe it's in large part cause I'm gonna have a hard time stomaching OG @23 with so much playmaker talent in this draft and I really hope they do believe in RJ as RG starter.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by SNR

Which is why the Chiefs scored 40-some points in the playoffs, right? That was with Schwartz and Allen.

With Alex Smith pulling plays out of his ass, yeah. But when it mattered the OL couldn't create enough running room for the coaches to trust Gray to keep the chains moving.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

With Alex Smith pulling plays out of his ass, yeah. But when it mattered the OL couldn't create enough running room for the coaches to trust Gray to keep the chains moving.

That's what real QBs should do. It's why I've stopped bashing Alex Smith and have turned into a fan of his. That's going to happen to any QB. Just ask Russell Wilson, who had to dick around constantly to keep plays alive. Colin Kaepernick? The guy on the team with the dream offensive line you've been salivating over for months? Why the hell do you think he dances around as much as he does? Because he's trying out for the Joffrey Ballet?

Also, the OL created room for Knile Davis just fine. Could it be that Gray ****ing sucks?

[Messier]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

With Alex Smith pulling plays out of his ass, yeah. But when it mattered the OL couldn't create enough running room for the coaches to trust Gray to keep the chains moving.

That's on the OL? They were down to their third RB. I don't blame the OL when the running game slowed down with Gray in the game.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by ct

My friend is a fan, Viking season ticket timeshare, was quite complementary of Schwartz and sad to see him go. they drafted Loadholdt to play RT, and according to most vikes fans he hears on the radio was consistently outplayed by Schwartz, but they wouldn't give him any PT then let him walk.

Schwartz was a gold mine FA signing last year, but he earned his payday and moved on. Dorsey got what he wanted, a year of veteran presence to grow a younger cheaper starting RG. I wanted him back too, but geebus it's time to let go and move on.

Finding, developing, and plugging young guys like Rishaw Johnson in the lineup is exactly what Dorsey has said he's going to do. If they aren't ready yet, you bring in another cheap short term vet, aka Joe Mays vs Nico Johnson or Abdullah vs Commings, or draft someone else (TE anyone?).

I swear this place will bitch when you sign too many FAs and don't try the guys you drafted, then bitch when you don't sign FAs and try the guys they drafted. And yes, i'm qualifying Rishaw, Cooper, as essentially guys drafted or UDFA or practice squad/TC rookie waiver pickups. Teams will drop and sign these prospects back and forth all the time, and good teams will treat them all the same level, based on performance not draft position. I hope that's how we do it. Yes i'm lookin at you Kelce!!

We'll know exactly how the FO and coaches feel these prospects have developed on who/what/when we draft in 2+ weeks. Obviously if we grab OG or FS or TE 1st round that speaks far louder than the hopeful mini-camp fluff we're fed this time of year.

Just please don't be G!!! I'm on the Rishaw bandwagon, and maybe it's in large part cause I'm gonna have a hard time stomaching OG @23 with so much playmaker talent in this draft and I really hope they do believe in RJ as RG starter.

I'm in the same boat as you are. I'm a fan of Rishaw Johnson only because he represents not drafting offensive line in the first round.