Chiefs Alex Smith - Page 10

jspchief · 11-30-2014, 08:20 PM

How do you feel about him as your QB in this situation?

**Baby Lee** · 12-01-2014, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

But he still didn't win the SB and the next year he got replaced and that guy took the team to the SB.

And lost, with weapons and a defense that 25 of 32 starting QBs in the league, including Smith would've won with, and Tebow was still in the league then.

Kaepernick · 12-01-2014, 02:02 AM

I really didn't think Alex's play was all that bad tonight and was better than the score reflected. He threw some dandy passes when he got any kind of time behind the deficient offensive line.

Alex ended up with a passer rating 10 points higher than Manning, 95.0 for Alex to 85.3 for Manning. Peyton had the offensive line, the RB and all the weapons.

I don't get to see many Chiefs games and as a 49ers fan I can't say I really want to, but watching this game, it seemed Andy's play calling was much worse than Alex's play and Alex's play was really hurt by a lousy offensive line.

I know what you have in Alex and he doesn't push the ball down field or throw to his WRs much or often, but he is a master of the RB/TE short passing dink and dunk and you can easliy win with that if you have a decent defense.

You guys just ran into a buzz saw in Denver pretty much crushing everybody they've faced this year losing only to Seattle (#1 D), Patriots (red hot offense), and the Rams (trap game or just down game for Broncos).

Personnel wise, you still seem 3-4 years from serious AFC super bowl contention.

This loss wasn't on Alex. Not by a long shot. Not from what I could see.

ThaVirus · 12-01-2014, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by johnny961

Being down by 14 right off the bat and playing from behind all game probably had some influence on playcalling. But yeah, got to somehow get our rbs involved more considering our weak pass protection.

Reid had a hand in helping build that 14 point deficit.

Our first possession featured three straight passes then a punt.

Then, after we converted that 4th down and put some points on the board you'd think Reid would let Jamaal get a few more stabs at it.. Nope.

temper11 · 12-01-2014, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick

I don't see many Chiefs games.

No QB would have been effective behind that porous offensive line tonight. Alex Smith is a good QB and a master of the short passing game when he has adequte pass protection. I'm not talking elite pass protection like Romo - just average. His pass protection was WELL below average tonight. If that has been typical this season, then no wonder your offense is so hamstrung.

According to Football Outsiders, the Chiefs offensive line was ranked #22 in the league going into tonight's game. That's poor. Not as poor as the 49ers 30th ranked pass protection, but poor.

KC is 10th in run blocking but only 22nd in pass protection. Keep running the ball.

You can't blame Alex if he has little to no time to throw. I did not see a sack I would blame him for. Every sack was on the Offensive line being offensive.

Link to Football Outsiders below:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

The only reason the Chiefs offensive line isn't dead last in pass protection by a wide margin is the fact that Reid and Smith have been hiding their deficiencies all year with short passing game and getting the ball out as fast as anyone in the league. The offensive line is beyond suck. I was pleasantly surprised when it appeared that they were able to still be effective, but it has been blatently obvious the last several weeks beginning with the Bills. Charles can't run through it, Smith doesn't even have time for short passing anymore behind it. It's just a complete dumpster fire.

Why did the Chiefs pick Dee Ford again? Is he still on the team?

Jimmya · 12-01-2014, 06:31 AM

Alex Smith cannot and refuses to show defenses that he can consistently hit a hot route so defenses load the box and usually play with one deep safety.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-01-2014, 07:03 AM

I figured I'd jump on this morning and see the OL taking the heat for not being able to block all the extra guys Denver was bringing in the first half. This place doesn't disappoint.

Most good QB's BEG to get blitzed - ours can't seem to take advantage when the other team brings extras.

jspchief · 12-01-2014, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I figured I'd jump on this morning and see the OL taking the heat for not being able to block all the extra guys Denver was bringing in the first half. This place doesn't disappoint.

Most good QB's BEG to get blitzed - ours can't seem to take advantage when the other team brings extras.

Blitzing is supposed to be risky. How would a defense get burned blitzing KC?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-01-2014, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Blitzing is supposed to be risky. How would a defense get burned blitzing KC?

Exactly.

One of the talking heads made a comment about stacking the box and bringing heat when you don't respect the QB.

For all the claims about how "smart" Alex is, I rarely see him read the blitz or get out of bad play calls.

Jimmya · 12-01-2014, 07:20 AM

Exactly correct warpath. I cannot remember any time this season that Smith hit a hot route on a blitz.

jd1020 · 12-01-2014, 07:29 AM

Smith is a yes man. He doesn't have time to worry about reading a jail break or seeing the defense has this play beat and checking out of it. He just wants to be told what to do and when to do it.

It's actually kind of funny, in a sad way, how a team can line up 8 in the box and not even disguise the fact that they are all coming and this ****er still takes a 7 step drop.

**the Talking Can** · 12-01-2014, 08:23 AM

alex smith isn't good enough, and everyone here knows it whether they'll admit it or not

Sandy Vagina · 12-01-2014, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

alex smith isn't good enough, and everyone here knows it whether they'll admit it or not

Definitely not good enough to excel with this shit OL and lack of run defense.

That's sure enough true.. but that would also be true of 29 other currently starting QBs.

Jimmya · 12-01-2014, 08:32 AM

And what will your Alex excuses be when we draft linemen? He's a game manager.... Bottom line.

**the Talking Can** · 12-01-2014, 08:33 AM

excuses are the only thing his contract bought us

Gravedigger · 12-01-2014, 08:34 AM

The front office expected this season to be a wash and then hit its stride going into 2015 when we get more picks and we can cut dead weight to free up cap space. I don't expect a ton from this team this year because after completely reworking the OL and the secondary, I am surprised they are 7-5. HOWEVER if they don't produce in Reid/Dorsey/Smiths third year, then we need to walk away and find something better. By succeed I mean win a ****ing playoff game and do what you were brought in and paid handsomely to do.

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12-01-2014, 06:31 AM	#140
Jimmya Veteran Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $10014530	Alex Smith cannot and refuses to show defenses that he can consistently hit a hot route so defenses load the box and usually play with one deep safety.
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12-01-2014, 07:03 AM	#141
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2061115	I figured I'd jump on this morning and see the OL taking the heat for not being able to block all the extra guys Denver was bringing in the first half. This place doesn't disappoint. Most good QB's BEG to get blitzed - ours can't seem to take advantage when the other team brings extras.
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12-01-2014, 07:20 AM	#144
Jimmya Veteran Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $10014530	Exactly correct warpath. I cannot remember any time this season that Smith hit a hot route on a blitz.
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12-01-2014, 07:29 AM	#145
jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $6962645	Smith is a yes man. He doesn't have time to worry about reading a jail break or seeing the defense has this play beat and checking out of it. He just wants to be told what to do and when to do it. It's actually kind of funny, in a sad way, how a team can line up 8 in the box and not even disguise the fact that they are all coming and this ****er still takes a 7 step drop.
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12-01-2014, 08:23 AM	#146
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9192208	alex smith isn't good enough, and everyone here knows it whether they'll admit it or not __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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12-01-2014, 08:32 AM	#148
Jimmya Veteran Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $10014530	And what will your Alex excuses be when we draft linemen? He's a game manager.... Bottom line.
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the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9192208	excuses are the only thing his contract bought us __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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12-01-2014, 08:34 AM	#150
Gravedigger Plays to win the game! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $6473101	The front office expected this season to be a wash and then hit its stride going into 2015 when we get more picks and we can cut dead weight to free up cap space. I don't expect a ton from this team this year because after completely reworking the OL and the secondary, I am surprised they are 7-5. HOWEVER if they don't produce in Reid/Dorsey/Smiths third year, then we need to walk away and find something better. By succeed I mean win a ****ing playoff game and do what you were brought in and paid handsomely to do.
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