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Old 03-09-2019, 11:35 PM  
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:06 AM   #136
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:09 AM   #137
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Yea the trade by itself is great trade.

It just feels like Gruden lacks direction when he trades two young studs for picks because he doesn’t want to pay them then adds a 31 year old diva WR that’s losing his ****ing mind.
Agree on Mack, but Copper isnt in Browns league.
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:11 AM   #138
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:11 AM   #139
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Agree on Mack, but Copper isnt in Browns league.
I didn’t say he was, but he’s much younger and looked like one of the best WR’s in the league once he got to Dallas.

He’s also not losing his ****ing mind.
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:13 AM   #140
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I realize this is the Raiders.

I realize the Raiders are dysfunctional.

But this is a home run trade for them. If any team but Oakland made this deal, we'd all be saying it's clear highway robbery.

We're still light years better than they are, but this obviously narrows the gap that could close further if they hit on their draft with all of those picks (a big "if," granted).
I respectfully disagree.

I say this because a buddy of mine, huge Green Bay fan, wanted them to trade for Brown pretty badly. But I told him from the start, I don’t think that’s what you want or need on your team right now.

For one, you’ve got a guy who seemingly would rather catch 100 passes than to win his division. If he isn’t getting his yards and TDs, shit hits the fan. On top of that, he wanted more money at 31 years old, so basically Oakland has given him a raise when he is almost certainly on the downhill decline. PFF actually had 2018 as his worst rated season so far, FWIW.

Did they give up a low amount of pick compensation? Absolutely. But by the time you consider the contract and the headache that he could be, I still think it winds up being a net negative for Oakland when we look back in a few years.
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:17 AM   #141
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Cooper went from Carr to Prescott and blew up that should tell you how bad Carr is
He really didn't. He had a huge game against the Eagles when they had street free agents for CBs, and then vanished for a couple games against better secondary talent.

That was his MO in Oakland. Huge game followed by zilch.

He'll be dropping balls for the Cows on crucial 3rd downs and be making huge $$$$$'s. Raiders won both these trades.
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:18 AM   #142
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I respectfully disagree.

I say this because a buddy of mine, huge Green Bay fan, wanted them to trade for Brown pretty badly. But I told him from the start, I don’t think that’s what you want or need on your team right now.

For one, you’ve got a guy who seemingly would rather catch 100 passes than to win his division. If he isn’t getting his yards and TDs, shit hits the fan. On top of that, he wanted more money at 31 years old, so basically Oakland has given him a raise when he is almost certainly on the downhill decline. PFF actually had 2018 as his worst rated season so far, FWIW.

Did they give up a low amount of pick compensation? Absolutely. But by the time you consider the contract and the headache that he could be, I still think it winds up being a net negative for Oakland when we look back in a few years.
You are often wrong about the Raiders due to your huge blind spot with them, so I guess we'll see.
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:20 AM   #143
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Still have picks 4, 24, 27, 35

Sign Leveon Bell and draft Kyler Murray @ 4

Draft pass rush and defense with rest.

Mayock/Gruden, I see ya'll.
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:23 AM   #144
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You are often wrong about the Raiders due to your huge blind spot with them, so I guess we'll see.
Care to cite a time when that’s been the case?
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:23 AM   #145
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Jon Gruden essentially traded:

Amari Cooper + 3rd round pick + 7th round pick

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Antonio Brown + 1st round pick

That’s good work.
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:24 AM   #146
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Still have picks 4, 24, 27, 35

Sign Leveon Bell and draft Kyler Murray @ 4

Draft pass rush and defense with rest.

Mayock/Gruden, I see ya'll.
IF the Cardinals don’t end up taking Murray, you can bet that they will make Oakland trade up to ensure that they do get him. So I wouldn’t expect to keep all of those picks in said scenario.
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:31 AM   #147
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AB is trouble but let’s not act like Big Ben isn’t a gigantic piece of shit who calls everyone the **** out and takes zero responsibility for anything.

I’m thrilled to see Pittsburgh burn!
Rapelithsberger is a piece of shit, but AB is going to find out that he still gives his team a better chance to win than Derek Carr.

The over/under is the end of September for when AB begins to criticize/call out Carr.
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:41 AM   #148
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This has the potential to work out similar to the Martavis Bryant signing for the Raiders.
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:47 AM   #149
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Raiders have no defense. Chiefs have no defense.

Chiefs have Mahomes.

Chiefs will beat their asses each and every time no matter who they ****ing acquire.
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:54 AM   #150
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Raiders have no defense. Chiefs have no defense.

Chiefs have Mahomes.

Chiefs will beat their asses each and every time no matter who they ****ing acquire.
Pretty much this, unless the Raiders actually manage to nail the draft and come out with 4 stars with our first four picks.
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